Samsung: what did we do to deserve this!?

[runawayprisoner]

Good video made by the XDA-Developers... uh... guy. (he's apparently not the representative of the entire community)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak#!

Word of warning: you may not like it if you like the S3.

 

[Mopetar]

Seems to go off on a lot of different tangents and mini-rants in the video. I'm guessing that the locked bootloader was put their because Verizon requested/required it and Samsung couldn't do anything about it. He appears to be making a bigger deal out of it than should be made.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Wow he so mad.

Grow up, like shit happens all the time.

 

[Dulanic]

Kind of a crappy video but he makes some valid points. Devs are leaving Samsung devices like crazy just like they did to HTC a couple years ago for the same reasons. I likely may not buy a Samsung device next upgrade due to the shit they are pulling.

 

[Chocu1a]

Just stick with the Nexus line & all is good.

 

[badb0y]

Finally someone who tells it how it is.

 

[midwestfisherman]

lol

 

[zerocool84]

So basically his whole complaint is about the Verizon version.

 

[Zaap]

Seems to go off on a lot of different tangents and mini-rants in the video. I'm guessing that the locked bootloader was put their because Verizon requested/required it and Samsung couldn't do anything about it. He appears to be making a bigger deal out of it than should be made.

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Moving on...

 

[zerogear]

Pretty much. Should abandon Verizon instead.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

It's like he thinks the USA is the only country in the world.

 

[lothar]

So basically his whole complaint is about the Verizon version.

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[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Well I think it's funny because most people here seemed to think Samsung is really developer friendly. Truth is they're not. Read the SGS3 (i9300) and SGS2 (i9100) forums. Exynos is probably the worst to develop for. And how is HTC that bad? HTC wasn't the most developer friendly in the past, but Qualcomm SoCs are far easier to work with for developers. IIRC, HTC Sensation got a solid CM9 build well before the i9100.

He does complain about Verizon, but Exynos is a worldwide problem remember. Codeworkx and Entropy actively work on the i9100 and i9300.

 

[ilkhan]

Given equal quality devices I'll pickup the Sony Nexus 2012 rather than the Samsung Nexus 2012. I love the commercials but the the insults the developer community are pretty bad. Then there is the S3, which just wasn't enough of an improvement for me to be impressed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Buys S3 with locked bootloader instead of S3 without locked bootloader.

Complains about locked bootloader.



I love XDA but a bunch of people there have a really over inflated sense of their own importance.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Devs aren't leaving Samsung just yet. Samsung does have the gnex and that's the most popular phone (developer wise) to be worked on at this moment. (IMHO)

 

[gorcorps]

Buys S3 with locked bootloader instead of S3 without locked bootloader.

Complains about locked bootloader.



I love XDA but a bunch of people there have a really over inflated sense of their own importance.

Yes they certainly do. I only go there if I have to, but in general I don't like the community.

 

[Eug]

bunch of people there have a really over inflated sense of their own importance.

That's what I thought when I saw that video.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Its not just about the Verizon locked bootloader. Samsung refuses to open source their Exynos drivers making it very hard to develop for those devices. Samsung also contributes very little code to AOSP. They make great hardware but they are truly a shitty company

 

[WelshBloke]

Its not just about the Verizon locked bootloader. Samsung refuses to open source their Exynos drivers making it very hard to develop for those devices. Samsung also contributes very little code to AOSP. They make great hardware but they are truly a shitty company

Why does that make them a shitty company?

Smartphones are released as is. Unless they are maketed as such they arent meant for you to flash AOSP ROMs on.

If you know you are going to want a 'pure' Android experiance get a Nexus branded phone.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Why does that make them a shitty company?

Smartphones are released as is. Unless they are maketed as such they arent meant for you to flash AOSP ROMs on.

If you know you are going to want a 'pure' Android experiance get a Nexus branded phone.

Because they enjoy the benefits of new features from Google every year but give nothing back in return to the source.

 

[Red Storm]

As someone who loves his Android phones... I find I don't really care about the whiner in the video. I only expect ROM'ing to work well on Nexus devices. If it also happens to work well on other phones, well that's just gravy. Expecting otherwise is just foolish.

 

[gorcorps]

Because they enjoy the benefits of new features from Google every year but give nothing back in return to the source.

They've played a huge part in making Android popular. They've done a shit load for Google just by bringing people on board. There's a lot of things Samsung does that I don't like, but saying they've done nothing for them is asinine. They could pull an Amazon or B&N and completely remove the Google app store, but they don't. The color e-reader/tablets are the biggest "screw you" I've seen to Google yet.

 

[WelshBloke]

Because they enjoy the benefits of new features from Google every year but give nothing back in return to the source.

Well they do provide a hardware platform for Googles services.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

They've played a huge part in making Android popular. They've done a shit load for Google just by bringing people on board. There's a lot of things Samsung does that I don't like, but saying they've done nothing for them is asinine. They could pull an Amazon or B&N and completely remove the Google app store, but they don't. The color e-reader/tablets are the biggest "screw you" I've seen to Google yet.

They made Samsung popular dude. Why do you think they promote stuff like S-voice and S-pen or whatever gimmick they have instead of all the cool stuff Android the OS can do? They havent forked Android because they dont have a software ecosystem like Amazon had to make it work. Its not because they dont want too, its because they cant