Samsung still claims 720 hours of standy time on the GS3?

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i suggest someone trying airplane mode and letting it sit forever. I think you can get decent standby time, maybe a week or two like that.

Or maybe turning your data off.

I see people post like 2 day screenshots all the time but it's clear they did like nothing on their phones during that time.

Well, I took my phone off the charger Friday around noon, played with a bit, got to about 80% that night, I didn't plug it in to see how the battery would last over the weekend. I didn't use my phone much over the weekend except make a few calls and test out a game or two. By Sunday 1am when I plugged it back it, it was at about 40%, Wifi was on all the time, and syncing everything.

So what is that, 40% drain over 60 hours with all sync on?

Not bad.
 
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You're busy playing team-sports. I don't give a rat what Samsung claims, or Apple, or anyone else.
I'm not playing team sports. If a manufacturer makes a claim, it better be true. It also better not have fine print and a bunch of crap.[/quote]

Good for them, then they can CHOOSE not to, as opposed to have NO CHOICE not to.
You seem to not get it. We're talking about a standby time spec and you choose to bring up interchangeable batteries. This isn't a discussion about choice at all. People are arguing that this standby time may be inaccurate or deceptive. Bringing up interchangeable batteries doesn't address the inaccuracy of deceptiveness of this standby time AT ALL.

This doesn't make any sense. Batteries for the SGS3 are a dime a dozen- many of them are higher capacity than the stock, meaning that easily much higher charge times are possible than the average amounts claimed. (And again, I don't care about the corporate hype theoretical limit claims) and I can take as many with me as I may need if I were to be in a situation where I need my phone for periods longer than it would take to charge it.
1) Not everyone cares for carrying an extra battery. I for one don't want that extra bulk.
2) I do have an extra battery but I use it only on vacation. I expect my phone (and I'm sure many others will agree here) to last the day. If for some reason I go through extra heavy use, I will charge at work or charge in my car. For those that use their phones so heavily that they will drain 2 batteries a day, I'm pretty sure you're in the minority. Not that there's nothing that can be done, but I can understand why you would need the interchangeable battery.
3) Interchangeable batteries are a prime example of BS specs. 3500 mAh in the size of the stock battery! I'm sure you will buy one of those and expect 60% more charge than your stock battery. We have learned here not to believe such BS claims. I don't agree with BS specs and while many excuse it as "Typical behavior by Chinese manufacturers," I'm sure we don't lump Samsung and HTC in the same group as Chinese battery manufacturers who make exploding cells.

There's ZERO phone downtime with an interchangeable battery, where with an iPhone there's guaranteed time where you have to leave the phone to charge, and any other solution isn't as good as merely swapping a battery.

There is downtime and that is the time it takes for you to power off, swap. It's not zero downtime.

Often there's time where my wife will use her iPhone all day at work, come home, and it's pretty much done, but then, hey, let's go out to a social function. She either has to leave her phone tethered, or carry it with her with the near-dead battery screaming for a charge, having no idea if it'll die on her. Meanwhile, my SGS3 is NEVER in that situation, and never needs to be. Battery life means DICK when the phone isn't fully charged and is toward the end of the cycle, and yet you still needs to be using it for unknown hours longer; it's just that simple.
You made a great case for:
1) Your SGS3 having great battery life
2) The advantage of a spare battery

But you did not address the primary concern that I and other readers have as to whether the 720 hour standby figure means anything. Furthermore, comparing your wife's iPhone and your SGS3 does not account for different usage patterns.

I don't see the reason why you're trying to make such a big deal out of a spec, when the specs of the phone are awesome, and no one really needs some unrealistic 720 hours of standby time.
If specs are not to be trusted, then what is the point of specs? No one needs or YOU don't need? The standard of battery life can change over time with innovation and what not. Maybe everyone's ok with charging their batteries everyday. Maybe someday it will be every 2 days is the new standard and then a week. It's like fuel efficiency.

Why? Again, who really cares? Both are obviously just extreme examples that you'd probably need a lab to reproduce. Every other tech company, with every other tech product makes the same sort of 'non-real world' claims. People usually don't get too worked up about them one way or another unless they're caught up in the usual team sports nonsense.
Last I checked the federal government has certain requirements for MPG figures. You can't just throw random crap out there.

This makes no sense to me. What constant syncing and pulling data constantly? My data connection is never turned on unless I need it. On wifi, the SGS3 has a setting to turn off wifi as soon as the phone sleeps. That's even if Tasker or JuiceDefender or other settings weren't already handling that sort of thing anyway.
You don't turn on your data connection? Well for most smartphone users they leave that on. Android syncs plenty of things. The basic starting point is GMail and Play Store, but social networking apps like Twitter and Facebook sync. So does Google+, Google Talk, etc. There's plenty of syncing. All of this syncing uses a LOT more battery life than a push notifications only setup like iOS.

So yes, unless you cripple your phone like you do (how do you get alerted of emails, or tweets unless you're at home or work with wifi?), I don't see how an average user would get superb battery life unless they go in and tweak things.

The point of this thread may seem to at first point fingers at Samsung, but maybe you should recognize the larger problem, and that is the standby time figure is something used by manufacturers and abused in such a manner to exaggerate battery claims. Maybe it's time to have some sort of standard for standby time testing. IF you weren't so defensive when it comes to Samsung and Android in general, maybe you would speak out against the larger issue. The point I'm trying to make is that standby time is particularly confusing when it comes to smartphones. You saw standby times like 200 hours before on dumbphones, but it was obvious if you just let them sit there, they could last a week. The same claim for smartphones is different because using a smartphone also involves syncing and data use EVEN if you leave the screen off. And even a modest 0.5% drain per hour won't get you to 720 hours.

It's pretty obvious any time there's a issue with Android or Samsung, you come to the rescue and you either bat the issue down and start insulting those who discuss the issue. But when it comes to anything Apple, you'll feel free to scream as loudly as you can. Perhaps I should find all your posts about gripes, complaints, issues with Apple iOS and accuse you of making a big deal of things. Is that productive? I think not.
 
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Well, I took my phone off the charger Friday around noon, played with a bit, got to about 80% that night, I didn't plug it in to see how the battery would last over the weekend. I didn't use my phone much over the weekend except make a few calls and test out a game or two. By Sunday 1am when I plugged it back it, it was at about 40%, Wifi was on all the time, and syncing everything.

So what is that, 40% drain over 60 hours with all sync on?

Not bad.
wifi? 2g? 3g? 4g?

Friday noon => Sunday 1am is actually... 36-37 hours. Not 60 hours.
 

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I'm not playing team sports. If a manufacturer makes a claim, it better be true. It also better not have fine print and a bunch of crap.
Or what? You'll scream? Stomp your feet? What exactly are you trying to demand here?


1) Not everyone cares for carrying an extra battery. I for one don't want that extra bulk.
This is typical silliness from you. It's like me claiming that the charge cable you have to have at work and in your car is 'extra bulk'. You always exaggerate everything in order to try and make a silly point. There's no 'extra bulk' to keeping an extra battery/charger around wherever you happen to be, any more than there is needing to keep a charge cable. One merely allows you to swap and go and use the phone the way it was meant to be, the other requires the phone be tethered to a location for however long it takes to charge and is much less convenient. Other than that, they're simply variations on exactly the same thing. (As well as the swappable battery not negating the ability to utilize the exact same cable/charge if so desired as well)


2) I do have an extra battery but I use it only on vacation. I expect my phone (and I'm sure many others will agree here) to last the day.
One doesn't negate the other. Again, you set up a false premise (swappable batter has anything to do with battery life) then run with it.


3) Interchangeable batteries are a prime example of BS specs. 3500 mAh in the size of the stock battery! I'm sure you will buy one of those and expect 60% more charge than your stock battery.
More ignorance. It's easy to get a higher quality extended battery that offers significant performance over the stock. Usually it'll require a third party battery door to accomodate. I had one in my Droid X that was only slightly bulkier than the stock, yet held a charge easily for 3 days of use. Of course, the high quality ones aren not going to cost $5 like the cheap ones, more like $30, 40 or more.

We have learned here not to believe such BS claims. I don't agree with BS specs and while many excuse it as "Typical behavior by Chinese manufacturers," I'm sure we don't lump Samsung and HTC in the same group as Chinese battery manufacturers who make exploding cells.
All of the things people are yammering on about here are manufactured in China, including the battery and most of the parts in anyone's iPhone. Being made in China has dick to do with squat.



There is downtime and that is the time it takes for you to power off, swap. It's not zero downtime.
LOL! Classic Delirum and your endless exaggerations. Like a minute or two max (during which time the phone is still pick-up-and-go ready) is really 'downtime' compared to however long you have to leave your iPhone charging.

But you did not address the primary concern that I and other readers have as to whether the 720 hour standby figure means anything.
I addressed it right off. It's 100% meaningless. I don't give a squat if someone also claims it has 7200 hours or 72000 hours of standby time. It all means exactly SQUAT.

The phone has excellent standby time during real world use, and that's all I care about, and all anyone else should be concerned with. YES, Samsung, Apple and every other company exaggerate their positives because they're engaged in cheerleading for their own teams, just like you exaggerate the negatives of things.



If specs are not to be trusted, then what is the point of specs? No one needs or YOU don't need?
Battery specs are hard to pin down because everyone uses their phones differently. I'd say it's perfectly true that NO ONE (no, not even the manufacturer) can give you an exact figure of how long you will have a cell phone last... except for YOU after you've used it to your liking a few times. That's pretty much it. So the manufacturers will exaggerate using some lab-produced result that was the absolute maximum possible (and so long as it was actually possible, even under lab conditions) I'm fairly sure then to state it is legal. Meanwhile most people know that real world use will be something else entirely.

Maybe a better use of time is to go and prove, beyond all doubt, that even under some lab-conditions it's completely impossible for the SGS3 to do 720 hours of standby. I haven't seen anyone disprove it. But that's what it would be on someone to do before they start whining about the Federal Govt. stepping in or other such nonsense.


You don't turn on your data connection? Well for most smartphone users they leave that on.
If I don't need it, of course not. It's no hardship to toggle it on or off. If I'm using wifi, then why would I leave the mobile data on? Ditto: bluetooth, GPS, Sync etc. (In fact, I'm not even sure what the Sync toggle on my SGG3 even does.) Methinks "most smartphone users" leave "that on" and then complain about their "terrible battery life."


Android syncs plenty of things. The basic starting point is GMail and Play Store, but social networking apps like Twitter and Facebook sync. So does Google+, Google Talk, etc. There's plenty of syncing. All of this syncing uses a LOT more battery life than a push notifications only setup like iOS.

So yes, unless you cripple your phone like you do (how do you get alerted of emails, or tweets unless you're at home or work with wifi?), I don't see how an average user would get superb battery life unless they go in and tweak things.

I seem to recall having this same 'argument' before with people that can't seem to grasp that many of us don't have the need for constant mobile data, and that we're almost always connected to a wifi network, unless in the car (then mobile data is on) or out and about. (ditto).

When my phone's screen is on: it's always connected. When I'm out and about, it's always connected. When I'm at home or at work doing whatever and the phone isn't in my hand, but just laying on a desk, then wifi is connected or it's off if the phone is asleep. I don't need the Play Store to update my apps at that time. (I don't use or need any of the rest of what you listed.)

So long as I can get phone calls and texts great. Truly important emails (such as from work and important clients) I set up to alert me via SMS so I don't need my email client constantly using data updating either.)

Also, all of this is based on YET ANOTHER false premise that you've floated and run with. The idea that the SGS3 has terrible battery life if people simply leave these things on and don't jump through hoops setting apps. That's simply not true- the SGS3 has excellent battery life for most people's usage, and I've seen no evidence that anyone had to particularly jump through hoops to achieve it.

It's pretty obvious any time there's a issue with Android or Samsung, you come to the rescue and you either bat the issue down and start insulting those who discuss the issue. But when it comes to anything Apple, you'll feel free to scream as loudly as you can. Perhaps I should find all your posts about gripes, complaints, issues with Apple iOS and accuse you of making a big deal of things. Is that productive? I think not.

It's pretty obvious any time there's a issue with Android or Samsung, you'll feel free to scream as loudly as you can. But when it comes to anything Apple, you come to the rescue and you either bat the issue down and start insulting those who discuss the issue. Perhaps I should find all your posts about gripes, complaints, issues with Android/Samsung and accuse you of making a big deal of things. Is that productive? I think not.
 
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I can believe the 720 hours standby time. SGS3 is a phone. So long as you can call/receive phone call, it should qualify as standby since that's how dumbphones were measured. Dumbphones had long standby time even with the smaller batteries and could last about a week. SGS3 has way larger battery. If you turn off data, I bet you can get insane standby time. You can still make/receive phone calls, same as dumbphone. It wouldn't surprise me if SGS3 could last a month if used like this.
 
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I can believe the 720 hours standby time. SGS3 is a phone. So long as you can call/receive phone call, it should qualify as standby since that's how dumbphones were measured. Dumbphones had long standby time even with the smaller batteries and could last about a week. SGS3 has way larger battery. If you turn off data, I bet you can get insane standby time. You can still make/receive phone calls, same as dumbphone. It wouldn't surprise me if SGS3 could last a month if used like this.

Dumbphones couldn't do anything else other than make and receive calls. Smartphones do a lot.
 

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Dumbphones couldn't do anything else other than make and receive calls. Smartphones do a lot.

So? You want to change the criteria now because Samsung has insane standby, way more than the iPhone? I'm sure every company measures standby time with the data off.
 
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So? You want to change the criteria now because Samsung has insane standby, way more than the iPhone? I'm sure every company measures standby time with the data off.

Okay, and for shits and giggles I ran my Nexus S in airplane mode. No sim nothing. Barely any apps installed. Really just bare.

91% after 47 hours.

Stand-by Up to 713 h (2G) / Up to 428 h (3G)

Yeah I don't think so.
 

Oyeve

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You will get 720 hours if everything is off and you put the phone in -100F fridge.
 

ponyo

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Okay, and for shits and giggles I ran my Nexus S in airplane mode. No sim nothing. Barely any apps installed. Really just bare.

91% after 47 hours.



Yeah I don't think so.

Looks right to me.
 

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I could really care about standby times, as the battery is pretty much drained at least once a day based on my usage. No smartphone battery life can satisfy me with current battery technology, that's why I prefer having an extra removable battery on the Nexus over the iPhone, which has a non removable battery.
 

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144 hours later. Nexus S @ 80%.

Airplane mode.

Lol don't do it. Use your phone man! I agree about the standby argument. If it's not feasible in real-world usage, it shouldn't be advertised like at all; it's false advertising. Apple I think does a great job of this one. They keep their technical claims simple for the masses to understand and are almost always conservative with performance and battery life. I can't remember the last iPhone that came out where the phone under performed in benchmarks or real-world testing as compared to Apples claims. Case in point:
Apple claimed the iPhone 5 is 2x the speed of the iPhone 4s - Pretty much every performance benchmark on reputable sites confirms that it meets or exceeds the expectations.
Battery Life - Same thing. Whenever they issue concrete numbers for battery life in real-world usage (lets ignore the intangible adjectives like "Amazing", "Super", "Magical" etc.), most benchmarks have found that the real numbers closely follow the claims.

It's a matter of honest advertising. At least, in this case, other manufacturers should take a page from Apple's playbook and stop exaggerating numbers. I'm willing to wager that the real-world standby numbers for the iPhone 5 are MUCH closer to the claimed 200+ hours as opposed to Samsung's ridiculous claims.

This is coming from a Galaxy S3 user. I love the phone. Don't like false advertising.
 

Oyeve

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144 hours later. Nexus S @ 80%.

Airplane mode.
Dude! Ive been trying to call you for days but your phone is off! I had a couple of million bucks I was gonna give you but I gave it to someone else because i couldnt reach you on your phone!
 

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The only 'standby' I'm interested in is 'will the phone last for a weekend away from home, with connections on, but virtually no actual usage'. Generally the answer is 'yes, but you should pack a charger anyway since sunday night is when you're most likely to use it'. Never tried turning data off since like as not my only usage will be IM so I want the data on anyway.