Samsung SSD 970 Pro & Evo Released

[denteet]

Samsung just put up a video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQISBdwOvs

Do we have an ETA on reviews and when it'll hit the stores?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Why do I have a sense of this that the Sammy drives still don't match the 4K benchtests of an Intel 900P Optane drive?

 

[Mr Evil]

Anandtech has a short article, and HotHardware has a review with benchmarks.

I wonder why there is no 2TB 970 Pro? Was the 2TB 960 Pro too unpopular? I'm still waiting for SSDs to reach large enough sizes that I can completely replace my hard drives with them.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Why do I have a sense of this that the Sammy drives still don't match the 4K benchtests of an Intel 900P Optane drive?

Because the listed specs don't claim they will, and they probably won't, but the Optanes are 3x the cost per GB so it would be silly to expect otherwise?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Anandtech has a short article, and HotHardware has a review with benchmarks.

I wonder why there is no 2TB 970 Pro? Was the 2TB 960 Pro too unpopular? I'm still waiting for SSDs to reach large enough sizes that I can completely replace my hard drives with them.

I used a 2.5" Evo 2 TB for my December gaming build for the games drive. It's more than fast enough for all intensive porpoises.

For the 970s, a solid meh. It's like the intel 7700K where a lot of the performance gains were from selling you a factory-overclocked CPU that was more power-hungry than it should've been.

I'm a Samsung fanboy, but the Evo is now way overpriced for the performance compared to Crucial and WD Black.

 

[Brahmzy]

I'll just leave these here

I'll stick to my 900ps

 

[UsandThem]

Anandtech has a short article, and HotHardware has a review with benchmarks.

I wonder why there is no 2TB 970 Pro? Was the 2TB 960 Pro too unpopular? I'm still waiting for SSDs to reach large enough sizes that I can completely replace my hard drives with them.

That HotHardware link incorrectly states the 970 EVO uses MLC (like the the 970 PRO does). The Anandtech review states the 970 EVO uses 3d TLC.

 

[ptr1959w]

Hi there,
I just thought you'd know, it would be around the 7th of May....I believe or around that time .I had lost my interest in the 960 PRO and EVO when I heard about the 970 PRO and EVO..

 

[nosirrahx]

Why do I have a sense of this that the Sammy drives still don't match the 4K benchtests of an Intel 900P Optane drive?

I am a 900P owner myself and a huge fan but realistically speaking the 900P is not a competing product due to both size and price. The 900P is an early access glimpse of the future that you have to pay quite a bit for.

The 970 on the other hand is a very realistic choice for anyone that wants great performance and reliability while still having a price and capacity that can be justified on a high end system.

The 900P is a toy, a really cool toy.

 

[Mr Evil]

I used a 2.5" Evo 2 TB for my December gaming build for the games drive. It's more than fast enough for all intensive porpoises...

For most PCs it's plenty, but it is easy to fill that up with videos on a media server.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

For most PCs it's plenty, but it is easy to fill that up with videos on a media server.

A media server, because of its network connection, can't really make use of >100MB/sec r/w (10x that for 10GbE) or more than about 200 IOPS per client. So a cheap 4+ TB hard drive is quite adequate for that use case, in the home.

 

[Mr Evil]

A media server, because of its network connection, can't really make use of >100MB/sec r/w (10x that for 10GbE) or more than about 200 IOPS per client. So a cheap 4+ TB hard drive is quite adequate for that use case, in the home.

There is more to SSDs than just performance. For my purpose, the most important quality is the complete lack of noise, whereas the HDD is the loudest part of my server.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

There is more to SSDs than just performance. For my purpose, the most important quality is the complete lack of noise, whereas the HDD is the loudest part of my server.

But you have a network. You can just put the server in the garage.

 

[Mr Evil]

But you have a network. You can just put the server in the garage.

I'd have to conjure up somewhere to build a garage first, and then put holes in walls to get a cable out to it.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I'd have to conjure up somewhere to build a garage first, and then put holes in walls to get a cable out to it.

Weekend project!

 

[ptr1959w]

I think I'll go for the EVO 500GB....

 

[Brahmzy]

I think I'll go for the EVO 500GB....

I’ve got a 960 Evo 1TB - the 970 Evo 500 matches spec for spec almost identically. That’s good, cause the drive I’ve got is impressive for a storage disk.

 

[Glaring_Mistake]

That HotHardware link incorrectly states the 970 EVO uses MLC (like the the 970 PRO does). The Anandtech review states the 970 EVO uses 3d TLC.

The devil's in the details; they say that the 970 Pro uses 2-bit MLC NAND (usually referred to simply as MLC NAND) and that 970 EVO uses 3-bit MLC NAND which is the term Samsung prefers to use for TLC NAND (which may have been an attempt to escape the stigma associated with TLC NAND).

 

[ptr1959w]

News Update Guys...I just saw them on Newegg and EBay. But I didn't see all the versions of the 970.

 

[nosirrahx]

News Update Guys...I just saw them on Newegg and EBay. But I didn't see all the versions of the 970.

Started the purchase process on newegg and it was out of stock before I could complete the transaction.

Guess I'll have to wait.

 

[Brahmzy]

Where’s Anand’s review of the Pro???

 

[Brahmzy]

That seller on Newegg is definitely gouging.
Prices will be significantly lower.

 

[ptr1959w]

I'd rather deal with Amazon, when they become available.

 

[Justinus]

I hope no one's bought any of the drives yet, Samsung hid the old product pages in their webstore and listed the drives in new pages with prices that are very different from the announcement prices and what I started to see at retailers with product already.

970 Pro: 1TB/512GB $499.99/$249.99

970 Evo 2TB/1TB/500GB/250GB $799.99/$399.99/$199.99/$109.99

 

[Brahmzy]

Wow. Huge price drop. I’ll be hooking up a 1TB Pro instead of a 512GB.
Tomorrow is the day they’re supposed to be available/shipping.
Pretty quiet though. I KNEW the NewEgg/eBay sellers were gouging something crazy, but this is just funny.

Samsung is going to sell a crap ton of these at those prices.