Samsung Note 5 rumors/hype thread

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GTRagnarok

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I'd chalk that one to Sony reusing their designs. The Z1 has the same bezels without the front speakers. The Nexus 6's bezels are the same as the One M8 on top but half the size on the bottom. I'd like to see Samsung's take on it.
 
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ChronoReverse

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Depends if the also rumoured 4100mah battery translates into 10 hour screen-on battery life.

If not, then this is definitely a dud for me.
 

dawheat

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Depends if the also rumoured 4100mah battery translates into 10 hour screen-on battery life.

If not, then this is definitely a dud for me.

4100mAh battery would make me buy it simply for the longevity. 14nm SOC + 20% bigger battery + normal improvements in screen efficiency = stellar battery life.

My one knock on the Note 4 is that it barely gets me home at night (8pm) on a heavy use day. Quick charging helps since I can just top if off in the afternoon, but having the luxury would be nice.
 

core2slow

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Depends if the also rumoured 4100mah battery translates into 10 hour screen-on battery life.

If not, then this is definitely a dud for me.
I can achieve +9h30min of SoT with my huawei ascend mate 7 no problem...and that's on a 28nm chip.

Put the same battery on a well-optimized note series running on a much cooler 14nm chip, I'm sure it'll easily go over 10hr of SoT.
 

ChronoReverse

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I can achieve +9h30min of SoT with my huawei ascend mate 7 no problem...and that's on a 28nm chip.

Put the same battery on a well-optimized note series running on a much cooler 14nm chip, I'm sure it'll easily go over 10hr of SoT.

That's good to know. Hopefully it'll really be a 4100mah battery.
 

gorcorps

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Maybe I missed it, but really? No one's talking about this?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/27/galaxy-note-5-leaked-images/2/

For me, the only saving grace if this turns out to be true, will be an edge to edge design. Otherwise, I can't see much that'd make me upgrade from an Note 4.

Seems like a poorly written article, or at least has a bunch of opinions I don't agree with. Like this one:

"In theory this should be good news (the Note range has needed more premium build materials while the other added features are welcome)"

Huh? The note range has usually had the better materials first, and then they brought them to the S line. The S5 was chrome colored plastic while the note 4 has a metal frame. While I'm sure the leaked pic is real, the article sounds like the guy doesn't really know what he's talking about.
 

Zaap

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The only thing not premium in the build of the Note, was that horrible silver plastic band around the Note 3. Otherwise, the Note 4 has among the best build quality. I personally don't want a glass back on my phone; other than the screen, glass is a dumb phone material to me.

I do agree with the author that if they were to go all metal, just stop pretending it's not possible to do a removable back in aluminum. As it is, I love the back on my Note 4. It's got all the positives: looks great, feels good in the hand, allows for removable battery and SD, is easily interchangable for 3rd party replacements. (I'm never worried about it being scuffed up because it can be swapped out with a brand new one in an instant.)

I'd be more pissed at the idea of this if the GS6 wasn't such an awesome device, especially the edge model which IMO is the best looking/most interesting phone out right now. I hope they'll just consider an SD card slot on the side of the device. I could maybe live without the removable battery, but no SD on the Note line I think is a dumb idea. The whole point of the device for many is it's a productivity device, not a wanna-be iPhone. The last thing I want is an iPhone, as productivity devices, IMO, iPhones blow.
 

dawheat

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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/08...he-galaxy-note-5-and-the-galaxy-s6-edge-plus/

I am looking forward to the Exynos 7422, UFS storage, touch biometrics, camera as good if not better than S6.

I do think Samsung is hearing the negatives about S6 battery life and the S6 Active showed the huge benefits of a bigger battery without too much thickness (which is probably inflated due to the robust frame).

So no mSD with 32GB UFS storage standard + 64 and 128GB options available. Large non-removable battery (at least 10% bigger than the Note 4) which combined with the Exynos 7422 providing significantly better battery life than the Note 4.
 

dawheat

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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/24...on-benchmark-with-exynos-7420-cpu-4gb-of-ram/

So might come with the 7420 instead of what was initially expected to be a slightly improved part (rumored 7422).

While not a big deal, I did think they'd introduce a slight bump to match the expected performance of the Snapdragon 820, especially for single threaded performance. On the other hand, performance differences would be unnoticeable.

Still, the most important thing to me in buying the Note 5 is making sure battery life is a non-issue.
 

s44

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While not a big deal, I did think they'd introduce a slight bump to match the expected performance of the Snapdragon 820
Perhaps it's a sign that the 820 either won't arrive any time soon, or actually will be in the US version.

sammobile has become a ridiculous clickbait site.
 

Mopetar

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The SoC isn't a big deal, at least not as far as battery life goes for typical use cases. Unless your running a game or some other intensive process, the power draw for the SoC is minimal compared to the screen or wireless/cellular radio.

Improvements in either of those aspects are far more important to getting better battery life.
 

dawheat

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The SoC isn't a big deal, at least not as far as battery life goes for typical use cases. Unless your running a game or some other intensive process, the power draw for the SoC is minimal compared to the screen or wireless/cellular radio.

Improvements in either of those aspects are far more important to getting better battery life.

Well I'm not sure how much it would have helped, but the 7422 was supposed to be a single chip solution that included the CPU, GPU, RAM, storage, and modem.

Updates seem to show the 7422 may still end up in the Note 5.
 

Mopetar

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Well I'm not sure how much it would have helped, but the 7422 was supposed to be a single chip solution that included the CPU, GPU, RAM, storage, and modem.

Updates seem to show the 7422 may still end up in the Note 5.

Any indication who they're licensing the tech from? If Samsung is rolling their own cellular baseband, that's a really big deal, especially if the performance is even close to the dedicated solutions from existing players.

Otherwise that stuff is usually so far divorced from the rest of the system that unless you're someone like Qualcomm who specializes in that kind of thing, you don't try to incorporate that into your SoC.
 

kpkp

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Any indication who they're licensing the tech from? If Samsung is rolling their own cellular baseband, that's a really big deal, especially if the performance is even close to the dedicated solutions from existing players.

Otherwise that stuff is usually so far divorced from the rest of the system that unless you're someone like Qualcomm who specializes in that kind of thing, you don't try to incorporate that into your SoC.

Don't they have Shannon?
The only issue would be with CDMA operators.
 

Mopetar

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I wasn't aware they were doing their own baseband chips now as well, but perhaps that's because I'm on Verizon.
 
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Sadly looks like I was wrong (about Samsung positioning the Note as a power user's phone and so keeping the removable back/battery and possible the memory card slot). Could still be a good device, but this just makes me feel like the iPhone is going to be a definite option if I want a large screen device now.

Plus the iPad Pros are rumored to have a stylus, so it might be possible that Apple could add a digitizer to the + models. Probably wouldn't happen anytime soon, but that could throw Samsung for a loop.
 

DefDC

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If they had a revolution in battery life, I'd still consider it, but like clockwork, every Samsung phone seems to lose their battery life after a major update. I still love my Note 3 and was blown away by the battery life, especially after coming from a GNex. Now, it's decent at best. I just bought a few more OEM batteries to see if my original 3 batteries were just aging out. Nope.

I wouldn't have a problem with losing the SD slot, if those #*%^ers would have a 64GB MINIMUM baseline. Not everyone is on a campus blanketed at all times with wifi to have access to online storage. Travelers, rural folks, and professionals like me that sit in the middle of a data center/server room have no connection to the outside world. Take away the slot, fine. But justify that decision with a pro-consumer approach. Not the Apple/cash grab way. Having the same memory options as you did 5 years ago is just ridiculous. (just like the 2GB standard phone plans... Dont get me started...)

I really liked my Note 3 and I might just have to buy a Note 4, just to give me a boost until I find something I really like.
 

dawheat

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http://www.droid-life.com/2015/08/04/samsung-galaxy-note-5-pictures/

If this is true, this may be the first Note I don't buy since the Note 2.

- battery life of the Note 4 is good enough. A 10% smaller battery doesn't bode well on Lollipop if the S6 is any indication. Fast charging and wireless charging don't make up for base battery life that isn't good enough.
- I can live without mSD and frankly its no surprise, but I am a bit disappointed with no USB-C. A reversible connector is just better, especially when I'm fumbling around in the dark.

If it had the rumored 4000mAh, I probably would have still gotten it. Now...I'm not sure if this is one year I won't upgrade.
 

kpkp

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That what happens when you get the Apple envy and you need to make super shiny super thin phones. Thankfully Moto, 1+ and company aren't scared to make "called fat".
 

Oyeve

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Wow. Just wow. I guess I better put my note 4 on some sort of insurance plan as I will not be getting the note 5.
 

core2slow

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3000mah battery...lol. I hope it's fake but i do see why they went this way if fast charging/wireless charging is enabled. Samsung's marketing will probably tout "0-100% charged in 30min!" but you'll probably have to charge it 3x a day haha.

I'm glad my hauwei came with 4100mah battery. I'm done with performance phones.
 

Muadib

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I too will stay with my note 4. Will it be my last Samsung? It sure looks like it