Discussion Samsung Exynos SoC thread

[DZero]

There is huge gape between A5x and S series, they really need this phone, with proper upper midrange soc.

So that means that next year the A7X series will revive but means that the S26 FE might cost more than expecting... even the S26 might get a real jump in prices

PS: Just in case... the A77 IS REAL!!!!

samsung SM-A776B - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a samsung SM-A776B with an ARM ARMv8 processor.

browser.geekbench.com

But 8GB RAM?

 

[DZero]

Bad news... aparently both scores (A57 and A77) were fake. So time to wait until real scores.

However on the other side...

[News] Samsung Reportedly Hits 55–60% 2nm Yields, Eyeing an Edge Through Early GAA Deployment

Samsung is working to revive its foundry business. According to Chosun Daily, the company’s 2nm yield rate has climbed to an estimated 55–60%, helping...

www.trendforce.com

Near 60% is nice, seems that Samsung 2nm, is real then

 

[mvprod123]

Exynos 2600 | Mobile Processor | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Exynos 2600 is a next-generation mobile SoC built on the 2nm GAA process, featuring a deca-core CPU with Arm® C1-Ultra, a powerful NPU, and the Samsung Xclipse 960 GPU — all coming together to express the exceptional in performance.

semiconductor.samsung.com

 

[Covfefe]

Exynos 2600 | Mobile Processor | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Exynos 2600 is a next-generation mobile SoC built on the 2nm GAA process, featuring a deca-core CPU with Arm® C1-Ultra, a powerful NPU, and the Samsung Xclipse 960 GPU — all coming together to express the exceptional in performance.

semiconductor.samsung.com

They're finally dropping the little cores. No C1 nanos.

 

[jdubs03]

Most notable thing I see other than the frequency confirmation is Arm v9.3.

 

[marees]

internal evaluations indicated "AI engine" performance being about six times greater than on Apple's current flagship A19 Pro SoC.

When compared to the omnipresent Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 chipset, Samsung's proprietary design (allegedly) did better in NPU and iGPU test scenarios—up to 30% and 29% faster, respectively.

Exynos 2600 SoC Could Power Galaxy Z Flip 8, Report Suggests Considerable NPU Performance​

by T0@st Today, 01:09 Discuss (1 Comment)
Hours ago, Samsung Semiconductor's website was updated with an extensive Exynos 2600 splash page

 

[jdubs03]

internal evaluations indicated "AI engine" performance being about six times greater than on Apple's current flagship A19 Pro SoC.

When compared to the omnipresent Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 chipset, Samsung's proprietary design (allegedly) did better in NPU and iGPU test scenarios—up to 30% and 29% faster, respectively.

Exynos 2600 SoC Could Power Galaxy Z Flip 8, Report Suggests Considerable NPU Performance​

by T0@st Today, 01:09 Discuss (1 Comment)
Hours ago, Samsung Semiconductor's website was updated with an extensive Exynos 2600 splash page

Should be quite a good product if it plays out how its been rumored. Will be interesting to see the Geekbench AI scores to compare against each chipset.

 

[mvprod123]

internal evaluations indicated "AI engine" performance being about six times greater than on Apple's current flagship A19 Pro SoC.

When compared to the omnipresent Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 chipset, Samsung's proprietary design (allegedly) did better in NPU and iGPU test scenarios—up to 30% and 29% faster, respectively.

Exynos 2600 SoC Could Power Galaxy Z Flip 8, Report Suggests Considerable NPU Performance​

by T0@st Today, 01:09 Discuss (1 Comment)
Hours ago, Samsung Semiconductor's website was updated with an extensive Exynos 2600 splash page

What kind of strange math is this? The difference in TOPS in NPU between A19 Pro and 8 Elite Gen 5 is twofold (in practice, only 20-30%), but the statement says that Exynos 2600 is 6 times ahead of A19 Pro, and the difference with 8 Elite Gen 5 is the same 20-30%? Total BS.

 

[jdubs03]

Would be interesting to see the performance differential. I doubt they’d release something inferior, but to get ahead of AMD also doesn’t seem likely.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004156304160706817

 

[DZero]

Would be interesting to see the performance different. I doubt they’d release something inferior, but to get ahead of AMD also doesn’t seem likely.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004156304160706817

It will be something inferior by far. Look at Huawei's Maleoon.

Samsung has an issue Huawei don't have: an own iteration of their OS. Apple has iOS, Huawei Harmony OS, but Samsung has Android and has to share with Qualcomm their marketshare.

The only way Samsung has to win is to make a own special Android version for that Exynos processors.

 

[jdubs03]

It will be something inferior by far. Look at Huawei's Maleoon.

Samsung has an issue Huawei don't have: an own iteration of their OS. Apple has iOS, Huawei Harmony OS, but Samsung has Android and has to share with Qualcomm their marketshare.

The only way Samsung has to win is to make an own special Android version for that Exynos processors.

I’d imagine they’d still want to have a competitive offering.

 

[adroc_thurston]

I’d imagine they’d still want to have a competitive offering.

Competing with AMD is a beyond nontrivial affair.

 

[marees]

Exynos 2600 has 8 wgp rdna 4 apu ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004449054756163769

 

[marees]

Exynos 2600 has 8 wgp rdna 4 apu ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004449054756163769

Link

A Samsung Electronics official stated, "GPU development has many variables, and it is difficult to give a definitive answer as to whether we will develop it ourselves in the future," and added, "The LSI division will continue to cooperate with AMD."

삼성 엑시노스 2600, AMD 'RDNA4' 첫 활용 - 디일렉(THE ELEC)

삼성전자가 모바일 애플리케이션 프로세서(AP) 엑시노스 2600에 AMD RDNA4 기반 그래픽처리장치(GPU) 아키텍처를 탑재한 것으로 26일 확인됐다. 엑시노

www-thelec-kr.translate.goog

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004579855057170530

 

[DZero]

So this means more time with AMD. Maybe Samsung should start to think their own GPU idea on lower tiers processors first

 

[Doug S]

So this means more time with AMD. Maybe Samsung should start to think their own GPU idea on lower tiers processors first

They will probably do it like Apple did with their modems. Apple even built the uncertainty into their last contract with Qualcomm, which was for four years with an optional two year extension (which they exercised, and will use about a year's worth of the two)

I still think Samsung needs to devote a lot more resources to their modem - that's a lot more important to their mobile unit's profitability than what GPU they use and how good it is. Even if they got their foundry roughly on par with TSMC, got a GPU roughly on par with AMD, and got ARM cores roughly on par with Qualcomm's they would STILL be using Qualcomm SoCs in much of the world until they fix their stupid modem!