Samsung announces 34-foot 4K screen for theaters

[Kaido]

Huge leap forward:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/28/samsung-takes-aim-at-movie-projectors-with-a-34-foot-4k-screen/

http://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2017&no=209780

https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-c...-ultra-hd-screen-for-movie-theaters-28480119/

* Intended to replace movie theater screens
* Nearly 10x brighter than current screens (146 foot-lamberts (fL) compared to 14 fL)
* No distortion
* An almost infinity:1 contrast ratio.
* Adds HDR to the cinema
* Uses direct-lit LEDs

* Worldwide launch by end of 2017, with testing in the U.S. & Korea in the second half of the year
* First US unit @ Cinemark Century Orleans 18 XD Theater located in the Orleans Hotel & Casino.
* In process of DCI certification
* Harman Professional Solutions’ cinema group to incorporate an innovative audio solution, which delivers "even, quality movie sound"

Sounds pretty awesome...I have a combination of a 65" 4K TCL (2.1) & a 1080p projector (5.1) at home, so I don't go out to the movies much because my home theater experience is usually better (not to mention, tickets here are $13 regular or $16 for the director's theater in 3D), but I do go out for big movies I'm interested in seeing. Seeing native digital 4K on a huge screen sounds wicked awesome!

 

[WhiteNoise]

Thats really cool!

I have a dedicated home theater room as well running a 120 elite screen with a Epson 1080P projector and 7.2 surround sound. It has a very beautiful picture and awesome sound. I still enjoy going to the cinema for big releases but over the years my Wife started making comments during or after a movie at the cinema such as, "I cannot wait to see this on our home theater when the br releases. It's going to look so much better." And she is right. Unless we go to a IMAX showing; most movie theaters do not have the clarity that my little epson has on our little 120" screen. Movie theaters need to upgrade for sure.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Hmm, how far does one need to be from the screen to not see the large pixels? Also, considering the distance that would be needed to be sat from the screen, using the law of proportion how big of a 4K screen would I need if I sat, say, 10-12 feet from a SUHD TV?

 

[Kaido]

Thats really cool!

I have a dedicated home theater room as well running a 120 elite screen with a Epson 1080P projector and 7.2 surround sound. It has a very beautiful picture and awesome sound. I still enjoy going to the cinema for big releases but over the years my Wife started making comments during or after a movie at the cinema such as, "I cannot wait to see this on our home theater when the br releases. It's going to look so much better." And she is right. Unless we go to a IMAX showing; most movie theaters do not have the clarity that my little epson has on our little 120" screen. Movie theaters need to upgrade for sure.

Oh absolutely. We have one local theater that has a great picture due to having a digital projector in their premium room, but the rest of them just don't look as good. We do the big releases we want to see at the movies, but yeah...sometimes we'll get a new movie on VUDU because their HDX format is incredible. Home theater projectors are incredible these days, and aren't insanely priced anymore either. iirc my BenQ HT2050 was $799 & is just awesome.

 

[Kaido]

Hmm, how far does one need to be from the screen to not see the large pixels? Also, considering the distance that would be needed to be sat from the screen, using the law of proportion how big of a 4K screen would I need if I sat, say, 10-12 feet from a SUHD TV?

I'm sure they've got the distance thing figured out, along with some visual processing magic. The size vs. distance thing for 4K is interesting though. I have a 65" 4K TCL in my living room, which is an odd shape (TV has to be in the corner, seating is opposite, I think the room is 13' x 19'). If I sat as close as I did in my last apartment, the TV would look awful, but at the further distance due to the diagonal in the room does a really effective job of tricking your eyes into seeing a good picture instead of say pixelated upscaled content. Same idea as seeing SDE on a projector if you sit too close. As much as I'd love a larger TV, like a 75", I think the problems with 4K would show through at the distance I sit at.

Would definitely be curious to see how the Samsung screen looks IRL tho!

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Kaido, I know what the answer is, but I wondered if anyone else did. For 16:9 aspect, 1080P and viewing with 20/20 vision (corrected or natrual) the sweet spot is approximately 1.5X screen width. For the same size screen and 4K the distance is halved.

That is why I find it amusing that so many consumers buy while their setup is well beyond the sweet spot and they cannot resolve the resolution they pay for--and that is amplified in behavior with 4K. All about keeping up with the Jones. Does anyone even bother to ask where the 1080 lines come from? As is 'why 1080'? It is physiological to the human.

 

[Kaido]

Kaido, I know what the answer is, but I wondered if anyone else did. For 16:9 aspect, 1080P and viewing with 20/20 vision (corrected or natrual) the sweet spot is approximately 1.5X screen width. For the same size screen and 4K the distance is halved.

That is why I find it amusing that so many consumers buy while their setup is well beyond the sweet spot and they cannot resolve the resolution they pay for--and that is amplified in behavior with 4K. All about keeping up with the Jones. Does anyone even bother to ask where the 1080 lines come from? As is 'why 1080'? It is physiological to the human.

There are general equations, but I find it also depends a lot on the specific brand & model. My 1080p XGIMI H1 LED projector looks a lot better closer up than my 1080p BenQ bulb projector does...which still looks awesome, but the SDE is more apparent once you're within a certain number of feet of the screen, whereas it disappears completely when you sit a certain distance away. Televisions are the same way, I guess due to the way different vendors process the image...some of them are more visibly sharp & jaggy, whereas some have extremely good upscales or just straight-up better 4K pictures for 4K content.

I don't go by the equations though, I try to see everything in person that I can. I was very surprised at how good the 75" Sony X940D was vs. the new OLED lineup from LG. I would buy the X940D over the OLED in a heartbeat. Granted, I still haven't seen the top-of-the-line G6 series from LG yet (nor the Sony Z9D...also curious about the A1E OLED partnership model), but seeing the other models in person really changed my mind on the technology available. Then you have people who hook up their HD players with Composite cables to 50" flatscreens & think they have a great picture. There's a mix out there

 

[BarkingGhostar]

This is true with the notion of fill-factor for fixed pixel displays. But I bet that if you take the general consumer walking into Best buy and put up two units, say a 50 and 55 inch where one was 720P and the other 1080P they probably couldn't or wouldn't be able to tell the difference if they viewed them from their intended viewing distance at home. But this is the hallmark of manufacturers, no?

And while I do not follow the strict rules of the game, I do make sure i do not sit so close as to allow the pixel structure to distract me, but not so far away I am not benefiting from the paid for resolution.

 

[13Gigatons]

Great, so now we pay $20 to watch TV at the theater. I'll wait til they get 16K model.