Samsung 840 or 840 Pro

Discussion in 'Memory and Storage' started by t0m3k51, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. jwilliams4200

    jwilliams4200 Senior member

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    I wonder if they really are in stock, or if it is a glitch in their inventory system.

    If you do a newegg search for "Samsung 840 Pro SSD", in the list of all the models, all the 840 Pros show as out of stock. If you then click on individual models, except for the 256GB they all still show out of stock, but the 256GB model switches to in stock.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ro+SSD&x=0&y=0

    amazon has the 256GB 840 Pro in stock, but it says may take 1 or 2 days to process. They also have the 128GB in stock, but not at a good price.
     
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  2. Puffnstuff

    Puffnstuff Diamond Member

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    It's already shipped and I've got a tracking number for it. If you want it you should buy it now as they won't last long.
     
  3. jwilliams4200

    jwilliams4200 Senior member

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    Now it changed to showing the 256GB model in stock (all the others are out of stock). I just ordered one.
     
  4. m.alkhalel

    m.alkhalel Member

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    You're forgetting 1 important thing, both 830 and 840 series have 3 years warranty while the 840 pro series has 5 years warranty.
     
  5. MrBighouse

    MrBighouse Junior Member

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    I am considering these two drives as well. At first I was thinking get the latest one but from what I am reading here if I do heavy data copying to the drive I should go with the 830? I am a photojournalist and on a slow week I'll copy 5-10gigs of images to the drive and on a busy week it can get up to 50--100GB of data. Not all that data is kept obviously and then I delete half of that which makes even more writes to the drive. I have a older 2010 i7 macbook pro with intel 5 series serial ATA (3gigabyte link speed) so would the I even be able to reach the max speeds that the 840 has? I really appreciate any input on this.
     
  6. bradley

    bradley Diamond Member

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    Neither. I would buy the 830, while you can. There will be no real world difference between the 830 and 840 Pro more than likely.
     
  7. MrBighouse

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    By neither you are talking about the max speeds my macbook pro would be able to take in and out?

    The thing that gets me is the 512gb 830 is more expensive that the 840 (non pro)..

    http://ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1275#Samsung Memory & Storage
     
  8. MrBighouse

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    By neither you mean both of the drives my macbook won't be able to handle the max speed? The thing that I don't get is the 830 512GB is more expensive that the 840 model.
     
  10. jwilliams4200

    jwilliams4200 Senior member

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    The rated sequential write speeds for the models are:

    250GB 840: 250 MB/s
    256GB 830: 400 MB/s
    256GB 840 Pro: 520 MB/s

    If your computer only has SATA 3Gbps, then you will not see any speeds over about 270 MB/s. So you probably would not notice the difference between any of the three 256GB models.

    But if you might upgrade to a SATA 6Gbps machine in the future, keeping the same SSD, then the 840 Pro may be noticeably faster. It is also more expensive, of course.
     
  11. jwilliams4200

    jwilliams4200 Senior member

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    The 840 uses the less expensive TLC flash.

    In terms of sequential write performance:

    840 Pro > 830 > 840

    In terms of endurance:

    830 > 840 Pro > 840 (probably, there is some guesswork here)

    In terms of warranty:

    840 Pro > 830 = 840
     
  12. MrBighouse

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    Good point about upgrading but the way Apple is going now you can't upgrade drives as they are built in on the board which makes me think I will have this macbook for the rest of my life! haha :p
     
  13. jwilliams4200

    jwilliams4200 Senior member

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    Or you might get a non-Mac someday! :sneaky:
     
  14. MrBighouse

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    Exactly the way things are going I can see that happening. :)
     
  15. m.alkhalel

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    Yesterday Samsung announced that the 840 pro series will ship with Assassin's Creed 3 ! How cool is that!
     
  16. blackened23

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    Why would anyone get the 840, do you even lift?
     
  17. m.alkhalel

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    You forgot "bro" at the end lol
     
  18. kleinkinstein

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    Here are the exciting unreal world benches. Not sure why anyone would opt to spend $270 for a "performance" you'll never see, never feel, and never know when the 830 is $160.
     
  19. tweakboy

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    Forget benchmarks and latency.

    a 830 and a 840 you will not see difference IMO. period. I mean you already have 0ms access time , the rest is bulk transfer I mean ok maybe the 840 is newer product has better controller to make this Samsung generation SSD bullet proof. I believe in that. But I dont believe in a speed difference between these two SSDs. Heck you wouldnt know if I swapped a Crucial M4 , thats 0ms as well , same sh*T just samsung 512GB is over priced compared to M4. Soo I wanted a Samsung 830 but it was exaactly 700 dollars LOL to the door step. Im like wait a minute I cant spend this kind of money alto I understand the importance of it. Turns out to be the best upgrade Ive ever made in my life with PC's for over 25 years. I had to grab the 512GB version cuz I wanted everything on one SSD period, so I can do system backup image on my external 500GB. plus I can have as many games as I want right now 14 installed, all my data my DAW and I have 160GB free, feels good. Turns out I saw Crucial beat Samsung in a Windows 7 bootup test at toms hardware which is as legit as anand. 16.3 seconds,,, sammy 17.8 and Intel 18.5 ........ALso I love the firmware updates Im getting because this SSD just keeps on getting faster and faster,,,,,,, 010G seemed like a put a turbo boost on the drive,,,,, much quicker,,, I noticed certaini things certain apps, how long they took and saw how much quicker then came up with 010G ... Im a fan of firmware BIOS, beta, you name it gl
     
  20. Remobz

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    This will be a Christmas gift to myself. I cannot wait to purchase my first SSD.

    :)
     
  21. zero koopa

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    For a 49.99 copy of Assassins Creed III and a larger E-Penis
     
  22. Coup27

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    I'm not so sure. The most relevant metric to system responsiveness is the 4k read. On an 830 this is ~25MB/sec. jwilliams4200 just posted benchmarks from his new 840 Pro and his 4k read is ~40MB/sec - that's a ~60% increase. I definitely think that would be noticeable and worth the money.
     
  23. Puffnstuff

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    I received my drive today so I'm happy. As for opting for a cheaper drive that is entirely up to you but I didn't.
     
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  24. rgallant

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    just saying
    I think most people that own a 830 paid more than $160.00 for it.

    -so why begrudge someone buying something faster today for the same money .

    -the 830 seems slower in most case's to my g2 raid0 and I can't remember a time I spent real money on slower electronics to replace a item. $160.00 plus tax or $ 5.00 doesn't matter.
    the 840pro is much faster than my g2's ,so it should fit in with what I'm looking for ,which is one fast drive.

    -even when the 830 came out people paid more money for it's non noticeable ? speed over the cheaper products at the time. Why was that?
     
  25. katkah

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    Did you get the game in your box? :confused: I wanted this drive for the encryption. It has 256 bit encryption capability whereas the 830 doesn't. Battery life for laptop too as someone else said.