Samsung 56" 1080p DLP HDTV - $1829

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CrapHead

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Good gosh that's quite a TV. Not a big deal, but you can use the $15 off coupon to save a few dollars on tax. Every little bit helps.
 

kki000

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.

You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.

nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.

What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.

And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. ;) Great TV for the price though.

Modern rptv sets offer close to 160 degree viweing cone from left to right. A vast improvement oer the crt based units which had severely limited viewing angles. Only real issues with theses sets come from up and down deflection, which again with proper placement is moot.

The effect that causes these sets to lose gain from off angle viewing is the fresenel lens screen which is used by ALL rear projection tvs.
So you are eliminating CRT, LCOS(sxrd), DLP and LCD bases RPTVs from your buying decision, along with a good amount LCD direct view sets.

Have fun waiting for the "one".
 

JackBurton

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: kki000
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.

You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.

nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.

What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.

And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. ;) Great TV for the price though.

Modern rptv sets offer close to 160 degree viweing cone from left to right. A vast improvement oer the crt based units which had severely limited viewing angles. Only real issues with theses sets come from up and down deflection, which again with proper placement is moot.

The effect that causes these sets to lose gain from off angle viewing is the fresenel lens screen which is used by ALL rear projection tvs.
So you are eliminating CRT, LCOS(sxrd), DLP and LCD bases RPTVs from your buying decision, along with a good amount LCD direct view sets.


Have fun waiting for the "one".
Exactly. That's why I prefer plasmas. And I don't have to wait, it's already available. ;) Have fun with your viewing angle problems.
 

Dav373

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A lot of people are complaining about the view angle. The picture looks the same on my TV no matter where I stand... including almost a 90 degree angle. I have the HL-S5087W and have no problems with the view angle.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Dav373
A lot of people are complaining about the view angle. The picture looks the same on my TV no matter where I stand... including almost a 90 degree angle. I have the HL-S5087W and have no problems with the view angle.
How high up is it? My 5087 is on a 2-shelf stand, a bit over 20" high, and if I stand up the brightness goes way down.

In terms of bulb life, you'll probably buy only 1-2 bulb replacements before upgrading to something newer and better in 6-8 years.

I used a Visa that doubles warranty to buy mine (= 2 years) plus registered with Samsung for the free 3 month extension. So if my bulb does die in the first 2.25 years I won't pay for the first replacement.
 

Dav373

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I bought a nice height stand, I think it is about 30" or so. I bought the highest sitting one I could find at the store. The picture may decrease very slightly in quality, but people are acting like if you move 5' to one direction, suddenly the screen is unvisible.
 

kki000

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Jun 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.

You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.

nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.

What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.

And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. ;) Great TV for the price though.

Modern rptv sets offer close to 160 degree viweing cone from left to right. A vast improvement oer the crt based units which had severely limited viewing angles. Only real issues with theses sets come from up and down deflection, which again with proper placement is moot.

The effect that causes these sets to lose gain from off angle viewing is the fresenel lens screen which is used by ALL rear projection tvs.
So you are eliminating CRT, LCOS(sxrd), DLP and LCD bases RPTVs from your buying decision, along with a good amount LCD direct view sets.


Have fun waiting for the "one".
Exactly. That's why I prefer plasmas. And I don't have to wait, it's already available. ;) Have fun with your viewing angle problems.

I own a plasma as well, 50in panny commercial model in the bedroom. Its a great set. If i could get a 1080p 60in model plasma i would..

I hate ppl who thread crap, bring up non existent problems and offer no deals in response.

Please post the 56in 1080p plasma for $1900.

 

JackBurton

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: kki000
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.

You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.

nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.

What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.

And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. ;) Great TV for the price though.

Modern rptv sets offer close to 160 degree viweing cone from left to right. A vast improvement oer the crt based units which had severely limited viewing angles. Only real issues with theses sets come from up and down deflection, which again with proper placement is moot.

The effect that causes these sets to lose gain from off angle viewing is the fresenel lens screen which is used by ALL rear projection tvs.
So you are eliminating CRT, LCOS(sxrd), DLP and LCD bases RPTVs from your buying decision, along with a good amount LCD direct view sets.


Have fun waiting for the "one".
Exactly. That's why I prefer plasmas. And I don't have to wait, it's already available. ;) Have fun with your viewing angle problems.

I own a plasma as well, 50in panny commercial model in the bedroom. Its a great set. If i could get a 1080p 60in model plasma i would..

I hate ppl who thread crap, bring up non existent problems and offer no deals in response.

Please post the 56in 1080p plasma for $1900.

I hate ppl who spread misinformation and try to pretend an issue doesn't exist when in fact it does. And what are you talking about thread crapping? I was just responding to the bullsh!t you were spewing. I never said the OP's TV was bad.