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I dont understand why curved gives a better TV experience.

why curved?

i still don't get curved TVs.

The manufacturers needed something else to sell people. They've already run aground in the numbers game with 1080P and 4K, and people don't seem to care about contrast ratio or refresh rate. They pushed 3D until consumers realized that 3D sucks. But hey! We take the screen, we give it a barely perceptible bend, and people will pay 2 times as much for it. Sure, there's no benefit, and there are some fairly obvious downsides... BUT IT'S CURVED!

So basically it's because consumers are fucking morons.
 

LucJoe

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For this price, I could buy a house and have enough left over to build a home theater.

I wonder how many units they move?
 

tential

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The manufacturers needed something else to sell people. They've already run aground in the numbers game with 1080P and 4K, and people don't seem to care about contrast ratio or refresh rate. They pushed 3D until consumers realized that 3D sucks. But hey! We take the screen, we give it a barely perceptible bend, and people will pay 2 times as much for it. Sure, there's no benefit, and there are some fairly obvious downsides... BUT IT'S CURVED!

So basically it's because consumers are fucking morons.

My family friend's home has one. Didn't really notice the curve at all, not sure if it made ti any better than flat. I kind of liked the curve though.
 

Thebobo

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This. Curved only makes sense if you are one person sitting at the exact center of the circle. Get a few people on a couch and flat makes sense. What's with this new curved TV stupidity?

I agree thats why I don't see this going anywhere. No maybe if you made a TV that can curve on demand ...
 

poofyhairguy

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The newer format bluray disks will have more than enough capacity to handle even really long movies at 4K

And these newer forms of Blu Ray disks will use a newer form of handshake DRM that NO current 4k TV supports. So I don't know how that point supports a current TV purchase.

Seriously, buying a 4K tv now is like buying a HDTV way back when without HDMI ports- you are gonna get screwed.
 

bearxor

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This. Curved only makes sense if you are one person sitting at the exact center of the circle. Get a few people on a couch and flat makes sense. What's with this new curved TV stupidity?

That was exactly my point. I often times will stand up in the middle of my living room only a few feet away from a 100" screen and can totally see the appeal of a curved screen at that point. But even in the exact same spot a 60" curved screen wouldn't make any sense.

It's just something extra to sell and it's pretty dumb right now. Couldn't they focus on getting OLED TV's out?
 

ElFenix

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I don't know about you, but my eyeballs aren't flat.

That's all I got for justifying the curve. Really.

I have read that it helps prevent reflections on the screen common with high gloss flat panels, but yeah, curtains are WAAAAAY cheaper.

nearly everything is shot with flat field lenses, so it should be displayed flat.

immersive would be good but you'd need a whole half dome wall or something. so you'd be in it, like sitting inside a planetarium.
 

motsm

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Pointless purchase, Buying a 4K tv is like buying a Time traveling delorian in the 1950's that requires plutonium to work.

By the time 4K content is available (15 years from now) 4K TV sets will sell for 1/10th of todays price and will have 10x better performance and features.
4K Blu-Ray is coming out next year, it was officially announced months ago.
 

poofyhairguy

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Couldn't they focus on getting OLED TV's out?

Nope. Only two players- LG and Samsung- have good enough OLED tech to make it work.

The rest will do everything they can to spread FUD about OLED while they can so they don't get left behind by OLED.

Just like plasma those son of a bitches will kill a better tech that makes them less money.
 

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nearly everything is shot with flat field lenses, so it should be displayed flat.

immersive would be good but you'd need a whole half dome wall or something. so you'd be in it, like sitting inside a planetarium.

It's more or less about viewing distance. By making the TV curved, they actually increase the amount you see due to your peripheral vision. But if people actually sat at the correct distance, then they wouldn't need to move their eyes to see other parts of the screen.
 

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It's more or less about viewing distance. By making the TV curved, they actually increase the amount you see due to your peripheral vision. But if people actually sat at the correct distance, then they wouldn't need to move their eyes to see other parts of the screen.

As you are reading this post notice how your peripheral vision is blurred. Your peripheral vision is only useful for noticing movement, a product of evolution as a means of survival on the savannah from predators that wanted to eat you or maybe play with you like a giant meaty, bloody ball of yarn. So you don't "increase the amount you see due to your peripheral vision" with a curved tv. It's nothing more than a gimmick to set themselves apart from other flat screen TVs.
 
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mikeford

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Front projection has never wavered from being the best visual experience, and most owners would laugh at any screen that feels the need to express its size in inches instead of feet.

Good rule of thumb is that ideal viewing distance is about 2.5 x diagonal of the screen, so 105" ideally would have seating about 21 feet back.
 

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Front projection has never wavered from being the best visual experience, and most owners would laugh at any screen that feels the need to express its size in inches instead of feet.

Good rule of thumb is that ideal viewing distance is about 2.5 x diagonal of the screen, so 105" ideally would have seating about 21 feet back.

The only things that might be in your peripheral vision 21 feet away from a 105" screen are your walls or curtains, but not any part of the screen, curved or not.
 

dougp

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As you are reading this post notice how your peripheral vision is blurred. Your peripheral vision is only useful for noticing movement, a product of evolution as a means of survival on the savannah from predators that wanted to eat you or maybe play with you like a giant meaty, bloody ball of yarn. So you don't "increase the amount you see due to your peripheral vision" with a curved tv. It's nothing more than a gimmick to set themselves apart from other flat screen TVs.

Like I said, it depends on viewing distance - also coupled with the fact that everything is filmed with the vision-only in mind for peripheral. While it's a gimmick, so are a lot of things when it comes to consumer products.
 
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Front projection has never wavered from being the best visual experience, and most owners would laugh at any screen that feels the need to express its size in inches instead of feet.

Good rule of thumb is that ideal viewing distance is about 2.5 x diagonal of the screen, so 105" ideally would have seating about 21 feet back.

2.5x is way too far depending on which standard you follow. Both SMPTE and THX have a recommended viewing angle way less than that. For a 105" screen you should be able to sit comfortably 12-15 ft away.
 

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Meh, my screen is already that big and I did not have to pay anything even remotely close to that. :D

KT
 

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Curved projection screens were the first major innovation that theaters introduced to try and combat the newly popular, and invasive TV set (ealry 50s I think--TV's had been around for many years but only became common in the home in the 50s--sure the old people here can clear that up)

Along with this, came Cinemescope [insert little TM] and the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, or whatever.

"How the West Was Won" was, I believe, the first film shot for and projected on those large curved screens


well, I think 3D had been tried before this, and been attempted many times throughout, but it was always a failure--and it still is. People never learn.
 

BUTCH1

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This. Curved only makes sense if you are one person sitting at the exact center of the circle. Get a few people on a couch and flat makes sense. What's with this new curved TV stupidity?

I was at a BB B+M a few months ago, they had the Samsung "78 curved for $8,500, it's kinda hard to explain until you see one of these baby's, it's so fucking immersive, go and look at one and you'll see, they rock. Unfortunately I can't rock $8,500 for a TV set but trust me, you will be amazed, I had trouble tearing myself away from it, they were showing a nature type demo, IIRC Niagara falls. I finally left with my "40 El-cheapo set in sad realization that in this lifetime the curved mother of all TV's will never be mine.. :'(

EDIT: Here is the one I saw at the store, one thing is for certain, if I ever had the $$ to spend $10K and up on a TV it will be bought local, who would want to deal with shipping back one of these behemoths if it had issues upon arrival??. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-78-class-78-diag--led-curved-2160p-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-tv/5791004.p?id=1219159703220&skuId=5791004&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5791004&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!78939673751!g!!49454503871&kpid=5791004&k_clickid=2a9fc015-8067-6ac9-bbfb-000061c7d8cb&kpid=5791004&lsft=ref:212,loc:1&ksid=2a9fc015-8067-6ac9-bbfb-000061c7d8cb&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=1471&ksdevice=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA8MSkBRCP5LaRlcOAusMBEiQAiqldkqcq4md8AKj_93Yocgub1XpnPSDUO1AKbmL6iQDcHFgaAr7E8P8HAQ
 
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BUTCH1

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The manufacturers needed something else to sell people. They've already run aground in the numbers game with 1080P and 4K, and people don't seem to care about contrast ratio or refresh rate. They pushed 3D until consumers realized that 3D sucks. But hey! We take the screen, we give it a barely perceptible bend, and people will pay 2 times as much for it. Sure, there's no benefit, and there are some fairly obvious downsides... BUT IT'S CURVED!

So basically it's because consumers are fucking morons.

I would probably agree with your reasoning but for the fact I saw one. Stop buy a BB or HH Gregg and see one of these, it's not a gimmick, I never thought ANY TV could be so immersive, go take a look and post back your experience.