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Samples of D70 Flaws...& why Canon Digital Rebel is better.

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Deadtrees

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D70, indeed, has better specs, but those are like cacheless celerons. Don't get fooled by D70's amazing specs.

D70 has too many serious flaws that can't be fixed (beside no.2):
1. Left-red, Right-Green color flaw. (I just can't believe Nikon would make cameras with this kind of stupid flaw)
2. CCD not being horizontal.
3. Eleltronic shutter flaw (Because of this, you'd, sometimes, see this crazy green bar going vertical)
4. Matrix Flaw (Very strange Moire, sometimes, gets just insane that it shows weird electronic patterns)
One of the picture I've seen was a face of this guy and it had all these crazy square micro-chip like patterns. Thus, some says D70 is the TRUE camera as it decodes the matrix we live in.

Well, those are problems that every single D70 faces(Except 2) and Nikon can't even fix 'em(They did admit about those flaws). In my country, they did recall D70s but couldn't fix them, thus gave refunds.

Canon digital Rebel is just better and now you can even unlock those hidden functions by the "Russian guy's firmware." *Canon locked some of the Digital Rebel's functions to save their higher priced DSRLs.

Left-Green, Right-Red Flaw
Left-Green, Right-Red Flaw #2
Left-Green, Right-Red Flaw #3
Green Man!
Blooming flaw
Blooming Flaw#2
Matrix!!

P.S : You, of course, wouldn't encounter these problems all the time.
 
They're both phenomenal cameras that let us see what the near future of digital photography holds.

P.S. Loving my Digital Rebel
 
Oh, come on now. First of all, blooming can occur on any digital camera. Don't believe me? Point your camera directly at the sun and open the apeture.

Secondly, the CCD not being horizontal is a problem that a lot of Rebel owners have reported too. It's not specific to Nikon, the D70, or for that matter, the DRebel or any other Canon. (The simple way to check is to take a picture of your camera in a mirror, if it's straight you know the CCD is horizontal.)

As for the red/green problem, read this. If you have to boost saturation by 95% to see it [EDIT: at a shutter speed that the Canon isn't even capable of!], then it's a moot issue in my opinion.

Lastly, I just want to add that I think the Canon is a great camera too. Of course, the Canon is a cheaper camera, and you get what you pay for especially in terms of construction and kit lenses. Having said that I would be proud to own either camera (I don't). In the end, if you're in here talking instead of out there shooting, you're just another measurebator.
 
1)never seen i, in any shot one would normally take only exibited at shutter speeds greater then 1/4000 and apertures less then 2.8, now the Dreb doesn't even shoot that fast and its stupid to do so with such a low app,
2) this happened to the Canon 10D and 300D as well, you just don't remember because you were too young when they were released, and its not a camera flaw is a problem at the factory that has been corrected
3) never seen it, you are the first person ive heard mention it, and seeing as everyone at dpreview and nikonons, hasn't, i believe it to be a very rare thing associated with that bad production batch
4) never seen it, only see some color moire which is expected the D70 has a different AA filter to allow it to shoot faster, takes 2 clicks to fix this in photoshop or whatever

so i count 0 flaws on Nikon's part here
blooming occurs on every digital camera if you point it at the sun, you need to use a filter to do this, it happens with FILM as well

just go look at the 10D and 300D forums on dpreview and search back for when each camera was new, and you will see people bitching about all the problems and flaws those cameras had as well when they came out

and ELI, why would I be up at 7:30 in the morning on a sunday?
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
1)never seen i, in any shot one would normally take only exibited at shutter speeds greater then 1/4000 and apertures less then 2.8, now the Dreb doesn't even shoot that fast and its stupid to do so with such a low app,
2) this happened to the Canon 10D and 300D as well, you just don't remember because you were too young when they were released, and its not a camera flaw is a problem at the factory that has been corrected
3) never seen it, you are the first person ive heard mention it, and seeing as everyone at dpreview and nikonons, hasn't, i believe it to be a very rare thing associated with that bad production batch
4) never seen it, only see some color moire which is expected the D70 has a different AA filter to allow it to shoot faster, takes 2 clicks to fix this in photoshop or whatever

so i count 0 flaws on Nikon's part here
blooming occurs on every digital camera if you point it at the sun, you need to use a filter to do this, it happens with FILM as well

just go look at the 10D and 300D forums on dpreview and search back for when each camera was new, and you will see people bitching about all the problems and flaws those cameras had as well when they came out

and ELI, why would I be up at 7:30 in the morning on a sunday?
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Some sort of Blooming does happen to All digital cameras, but D70 kind of blooming ONLY happens to D70 and that's why it's a problem.
Those mentioned flaws are very serious flaws. Not even cheap point and shoot cameras are ok to have them yet we're talking about DSLR cameras.
I do understand that Nikon had to come out with something that could beat digital Rebel. When they released the spec, it was just amazing. However, what a POS DSLR they created. Those are just horrible and horrible flaws that even a PC cam shouldn't even have.
 
Originally posted by: Shivatron
Oh, come on now. First of all, blooming can occur on any digital camera. Don't believe me? Point your camera directly at the sun and open the apeture.

Secondly, the CCD not being horizontal is a problem that a lot of Rebel owners have reported too. It's not specific to Nikon, the D70, or for that matter, the DRebel or any other Canon. (The simple way to check is to take a picture of your camera in a mirror, if it's straight you know the CCD is horizontal.)

As for the red/green problem, read this. If you have to boost saturation by 95% to see it [EDIT: at a shutter speed that the Canon isn't even capable of!], then it's a moot issue in my opinion.

Lastly, I just want to add that I think the Canon is a great camera too. Of course, the Canon is a cheaper camera, and you get what you pay for especially in terms of construction and kit lenses. Having said that I would be proud to own either camera (I don't). In the end, if you're in here talking instead of out there shooting, you're just another measurebator.
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Mesurebator? I'm not here talking about technical specs of the camera, I'm here talking about NATURAL falws of the camera. If I were a measurebator, I'd praise D70 all the way as it has very impressive specs.
However, what good are those impressive specs when this POS camera 'generates sci-fi horror' pictures from time to time even in RAW images?

And, you don't even need to boost saturation 95% to see the flaw, it just happens.
"at a shutter speed that the Canon isn't even capable of!" What good is having a amazingly fast shutter speed if the camera can't even handle it? It's like overclocking cacheless Celeron to 8 Ghz that would crash if you click a mouse button. I guess Nikon made it that way to impress "measurebators" like you.
 
explain to me how something that was a manurfacturing problim which has been fixed is a flaw, doesnt happen anymore and is fixed - no flaw
that kills the titled viewfinder and the electronic shutter and backforus
the green bar I HAVE NEVER HEARD MENTIONED in the dpreview forums, you are the first to say anything about it, im gonna say it has something to with the shooting conditions NOT the camera because if it were teh camera alot more peope ewould complain about it
ive alo never seen this matrix moire deal, the Dreb has color moire issues as well as EVERY OTHER DIGITAL SLR includeing the D70


and DonVito - I agree 110% with your post

and also if the D70 was such a piece of crap with all its flaws then every digital camera review site as well as just about every camera magazine i get woudent be saying that its Better then the canon 300D and is an EQUAL to the Canon 10D and Nikon D100
 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
D70, indeed, has better specs, but those are like cacheless celerons. Don't get fooled by D70's amazing specs.

Canon digital Rebel is just better and now you can even unlock those hidden functions by the "Russian guy's firmware." *Canon locked some of the Digital Rebel's functions to save their higher priced DSRLs.

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P.S : You, of course, wouldn't encounter these problems all the time.
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Whoa, tell me more the this new firmware. I am thinking of buy one of these cameras. This firmware sounds cool.
 
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