Same movie on Bluray-HdDvd-over air HD- Sat HD- Cable HD

gypsyman

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I have Dish Network and my contract is up. About to get a new 42" plasma 1080p. If the same movie was shown on an identical set, which would be the clearest picutre? I am aware that bluray may be the defacto winner over HD. So which one would provide the clearest picture?
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BigJ

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BR/HD-DVD

I believe (except maybe OTA HD) that all other forms suffer from some sort of compression.
 

Shawn

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Blu-ray and HD DVD would be best (and identical). Your poll sucks.
 

secretanchitman

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blu-ray/hd-dvd....probably because its using hdmi without hardly any loss of quality (OTA HD gives you a bit loss of quality).
 
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I am not aware of any dual-format release that has utilized BR's higher storage space to offer a higher bitrate video track (than the HD DVD version). So yeah, HD DVD and BR would look the best (and identical).
 

gypsyman

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My bad, did not see the av fourm. My expertise is lacking in this area. Mods may move or kill this. Wow, no mercy here.
 

Shlong

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I believe Blu-Ray is 54mbps for video and OTA is 19 mbps, so yeah Blu-Ray should look the best.
 

0roo0roo

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er disc formats win.
cable/dish/over the air tend to skimp on bandwidth and rape the picture so they can cram more digital channels in.
i don't think any of them use h264 to transmit either.
over the air is lousy mpeg2 if i remember correctly
 

LS21

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funny thing about this HD stuff is that the poor picture quality is in the poor transmission (compression), not because of the fact of 480 lines of resolution itself

ie a traditional 480i DVD movie, through my upscaling player, looks better than ANY 720p, 1080i picture, regardless if its through the air, direct tv, comcast, etc

also, ive seen movies through ATT's Uverse service broadcast in SDTV (480) that looks BETTER than some HDTV (720p/1080i) through comcast cable


so yeah, DISC format wins. broadcasts will never look good as long as the broadcasters rape them
 

GregGreen

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I voted Blu-Ray, but usually HD-DVD will look the same (no poll option for both together)
 

Gunslinger08

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Disks win. Some BR movies have better sound options (such as uncompressed) because of the larger disk size.
 

aphex

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Although HD Cable is down in the totem pole in regards to quality - having HD On-Demand just rocks :)
 

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Disks win. Some BR movies have better sound options (such as uncompressed) because of the larger disk size.

Dolby TrueHD is lossless, so you're not gaining any sound quality by having an uncompressed track on a Blu-Ray disc. They generally just put that there for the hell of it since there is some unused space on the disc.
 

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Originally posted by: LS21
ie a traditional 480i DVD movie, through my upscaling player, looks better than ANY 720p, 1080i picture, regardless if its through the air, direct tv, comcast, etc

I don't know about that, I can see a difference on my HDTV. Granted, the difference between a really good SD DVD upscaled and true HD is not that great. I also think that the larger the TV the more difference it makes.
 

mrSHEiK124

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BR/HD-DVD would be best, as well as identical.

1080p vs 1080i is a moot point when comparing disc to OTA; your 1080p set will deinterlace the 1080i OTA signal and give you, wait for it, 1080p!! The issue when comparing OTA to disc is bitrate, and both BR/HD-DVD usually double if not more highly exceed OTA bitrate.

With that said, then depending on your cable provider, it may look better or worse than Dish Network, with DirecTV coming in close last because they compress the fuck out of everything.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: Dunbar
Originally posted by: LS21
ie a traditional 480i DVD movie, through my upscaling player, looks better than ANY 720p, 1080i picture, regardless if its through the air, direct tv, comcast, etc

I don't know about that, I can see a difference on my HDTV. Granted, the difference between a really good SD DVD upscaled and true HD is not that great. I also think that the larger the TV the more difference it makes.

BOLLOCKS. Upscaling players, unless of extremely high quality, are nothing more than a DVD player with a scaler that HAPPENS to be better than the one in your television. Would you wager that a 2ch audio source converted to 5.1 using Dolby Pro Logic II would ALWAYS map the sound better than a true 5.1 source like a Dolby Digital or DTS track? Didn't think so. You can't [accurately] make something out of nothing.