same crime different punishment?

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Zebo

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Someone said if you slug a cop in tx its 5years. Civilian 1 year. How does this not violate equal protection clause?
 

IBMer

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Because its not just slugging a person who is a cop that gets you the harsher punishment. Its slugging a cop that is on duty.
 

HeXen

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Cops are there to protect and serve. A civilian is not.
No one notices if a civilian runs from danger, but if a cop on duty ran from danger..oh lawd. So there is a difference like there would be if you physically harmed the president, important people are important.
Granted i think anyone should beable to protect themselves from bodily harm from any officer or govt official providing they broke no law to provoke the attack, but to straight up attack one should deem higher sentence imo.
 

Jhhnn

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Someone said if you slug a cop in tx its 5years. Civilian 1 year. How does this not violate equal protection clause?

Because... Texas. They luvs their authority, despite taking on Libertopian trappings.
 

Zebo

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Cops are there to protect and serve. A civilian is not.
No one notices if a civilian runs from danger, but if a cop on duty ran from danger..oh lawd. So there is a difference like there would be if you physically harmed the president, important people are important.
Granted i think anyone should beable to protect themselves from bodily harm from any officer or govt official providing they broke no law to provoke the attack, but to straight up attack one should deem higher sentence imo.

That goes against everything this country stands for like when blacks served way worse sentences statutorily than whites for same crime. Anyway I'm just wondering what the constitutional or unconstitutional basis they can justify one life is more important than another and deserves greater sentencing. We all know they do it. e.g. child rape vs adult rape.
 

PokerGuy

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Because... Texas. They luvs their authority, despite taking on Libertopian trappings.

Care to place on wager on the whether the penalties are different for assaulting an officer in most other states as well? Hack.

OP: an officer on duty is not the same as one that is not. In essence, the laws seek to protect those who are in the process of enforcing the law, not simply those who are employed as cops. Given the nature of law enforcement, I don't think it's unreasonable to add additional incentive not to assault an officer on duty.
 

her209

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Be cop on duty.
Shoot up truck without identifying who is in vehicle.
Get put on paid administrative leave or desk duty.
No attempted murder charges filed.

:D
 

IBMer

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That goes against everything this country stands for like when blacks served way worse sentences statutorily than whites for same crime. Anyway I'm just wondering what the constitutional or unconstitutional basis they can justify one life is more important than another and deserves greater sentencing. We all know they do it. e.g. child rape vs adult rape.

You are comparing things as if they are an equal comparison. Under your jumps in logic because someone in the military kills someone it should be murder.

They aren't justifying one life is more important. Its just showing different severity. Its not show much treating anyone differently but about deterrence.
 

Darwin333

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Not to mention the fact that it slugging a cop almost always gets you an immediate and much harsher asswhooping than slugging a civilian
 

DaveSimmons

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Equal protection means 2 people doing exactly the same thing in the exact same circumstances would face the same penalty.

Slugging an adult, a child, a cop, a president, "your mom", are all different circumstances.

Doing any of those while holding a gun, different circumstances.

Doing it while making racist statements that show it's a hate crime, different circumstances (though whether this should be true is another debate)

Doing it for the third time in a state with "three strikes" laws, different circumstances.

TL;DR: apples are not oranges.
 

Zebo

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Hate crime is also crap. You obviously hate someone or you wouldn't harm them so all crimes are hate crimes.
 

sourn

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If you want to bitch about something how about bitching at the government for letting the bankers walk after money laundering. If me or you were to do that for Al-Qaeda we wouldn't even get to see a lawyer we'd be thrown in a hole never to be seen from again.

Were's the equality in that!
 

bononos

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Someone said if you slug a cop in tx its 5years. Civilian 1 year. How does this not violate equal protection clause?
When you slug a cop you're also attacking the system so its not just 1 person who got attacked.
 
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