Saltwater Crocodile vs Great White Shark

[dug777]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?

I thought my snakes vs penguins thread was quite realistic. I even gave two natural habitats, the south pole & a plane, as alternative battlegrounds....the mods deleted it :|

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?

I thought my snakes vs penguins thread was quite realistic. I even gave two natural habitats, the south pole & a plane, as alternative battlegrounds....the mods deleted it :|

Well, considering the truck that wrecked and spilled penguins into the Texas countryside, I don't think such an encounter is totally unrealistic

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Thraxen


Well, considering the truck that wrecked and spilled penguins into the Texas countryside, I don't think such an encounter is totally unrealistic

Why in the hell was a truck carrying penguins? Or was it really a UPS truck full of redhat disks?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How would the croc kill the shark? They end up drowning a lot of their prey and that obviously wouldn't work. And their teeth aren't build for sawing off chunks of meet so it couldn't weaken the shark that way.

Do sharks not have to be in a constant state of motion to breathe? If the croc could hold it still long enough, perhaps..

But yeah, I guess the croc would have to *know* this. I'm betting that a croc and a shark in the same body of water would probably stay away from each other, regardless of hunger.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: Thraxen


Well, considering the truck that wrecked and spilled penguins into the Texas countryside, I don't think such an encounter is totally unrealistic

Why in the hell was a truck carrying penguins? Or was it really a UPS truck full of redhat disks?

It was moving some animals to a different zoo while the one they normally stayed at was renovated. Some of the penguins died

 

[dug777]

zoo/park transfer iirc

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?

I thought my snakes vs penguins thread was quite realistic. I even gave two natural habitats, the south pole & a plane, as alternative battlegrounds....the mods deleted it :|

Dammit, I would have liked to have read that! Silly Orwellian mods and their history-controlling powers.

 

[bigfil]

id like to see the battle of a prehistoric shark against a mesosaur dinosaur
now that would be interesting

was watching the discovery channel and they were talking about mechalodon shark that was just massive and supposedly ruled the oceans for awhile, good stuff hehe

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How would the croc kill the shark? They end up drowning a lot of their prey and that obviously wouldn't work. And their teeth aren't build for sawing off chunks of meet so it couldn't weaken the shark that way.

Do sharks not have to be in a constant state of motion to breathe? If the croc could hold it still long enough, perhaps..

But yeah, I guess the croc would have to *know* this. I'm betting that a croc and a shark in the same body of water would probably stay away from each other, regardless of hunger.

Right, because a shark would let a croc hold him in place...?

It's not like once the shark stops moving, he dies instantly.

 

[49erinnc]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?

I think it's definitely a guy thing to be amused by this stuff.

As for the battle: tough call and a case can be made for both but as others have said, it depends on the environment. I think in a shallow pool of water, just enough for the shark to be covered, the croc takes it. Would likely be able to do some damage to the sharks flesh. However, don't underestimate the power of the bite of the shark when he's that big. If the shark caught the croc at the right angle, it could do some serious damage with one good chomp. Not sure the croc could even get it's mouth around a shark of that size.

Slight lean to the croc but it's anyone's fight to win.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How would the croc kill the shark? They end up drowning a lot of their prey and that obviously wouldn't work. And their teeth aren't build for sawing off chunks of meet so it couldn't weaken the shark that way.

Do sharks not have to be in a constant state of motion to breathe? If the croc could hold it still long enough, perhaps..

But yeah, I guess the croc would have to *know* this. I'm betting that a croc and a shark in the same body of water would probably stay away from each other, regardless of hunger.

Right, because a shark would let a croc hold him in place...?

It's not like once the shark stops moving, he dies instantly.

I'm quite aware of that, thanks. I'm trying to come up with scenarios in which a croc could kill the shark. Do you have any other suggestions?

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How would the croc kill the shark? They end up drowning a lot of their prey and that obviously wouldn't work. And their teeth aren't build for sawing off chunks of meet so it couldn't weaken the shark that way.

Do sharks not have to be in a constant state of motion to breathe? If the croc could hold it still long enough, perhaps..

But yeah, I guess the croc would have to *know* this. I'm betting that a croc and a shark in the same body of water would probably stay away from each other, regardless of hunger.

Right, because a shark would let a croc hold him in place...?

It's not like once the shark stops moving, he dies instantly.

I'm quite aware of that, thanks. I'm trying to come up with scenarios in which a croc could kill the shark. Do you have any other suggestions?

Nope, not at all. Since it wasn't a feasible scenario, I guess a croc can't win
EDIT: sorry, I came across as a little harsh in that last post.

 

[randay]

Whichever one strikes first, with a small margin for the croc to come back after being bitten first since its probably a lot more agile and Im guessing it could just turn and bite the shark, where as the shark can only try and swim free, and there aint no way its wiggling out of a crocs grip.

On one hand the shark has speed, but on the other hand the croc has stealth and a better chance of fighting back.

my prediction:
1. shark bites first, croc bites back, they both get f'ed/die.
2. croc bites first, shark dies.


edit: IIRC great whites are warm blooded, so depending on the environment the shark could have a real advantage for striking first.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Shlong
Wasn't there a show on the Discovery channel about this subject last year or something?

Yep, was just about to post this. On the show, they said Jaws would win. The croc would grab the shark and sink(the death roll, plus it's instinct is to drown it's prey), and almost kill the shark (since they need to constantly move to breathe), but would let go of the shark to swim to the surface to breathe itself. The shark would them come back and grab the crock from below at speed and bite it in half.

 

[Papagayo]

Deep water - Shark

Shallow water - Croc

On land - Croc