Saltwater Crocodile vs Great White Shark

dainthomas

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Inspired by the Gorilla vs Bear thread.

Here are your stats:

Croc: Up to 20 ft long and 3300 lbs. Capable of crushing a full grown buffalo's skull in its jaws.

Great White: Up to 20 ft long and 4000 lbs. Has serrated teeth and massive jaw pressure. Doesn't usually tangle with larger prey (such as sea lions).



Edit: OK, they do eat sea lions and can reach over 20 ft (stupid Wiki :|).
 

Crescent13

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Believe it or not sharks don't have nearly the bite force of a croc.

Great white i believe was 700lbs

Crocs were around 4000lbs.


but anyway I think the great white, it's much faster.
 

Ika

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A great white has as much, if not more, of a croc's thrashing power. However, a croc is faster in twitch-mode... it might depend on what kind of environment they're in. I don't think crocs function well in deep water, and sharks obviously don't do too well in shallow water.
 

dug777

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Depends who has the advantage of suprise, but they'd never meet, since white pointers aren't found up north, it's tiger sharks up there...
 

Stumps

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well going off the fact that Tiger sharks eat salties up north, I would say some of our east coast Whities would eat the tiger shark after its eaten the croc...two meals for the price of one....26 footers FTW at Bermagui NSW.
 
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When you said lets get it on I thought you meant they were gonna make sweet love, instead you want to fight them?? you're a very violent fellow.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: dug777
Depends who has the advantage of suprise, but they'd never meet, since white pointers aren't found up north, it's tiger sharks up there...


Well, bears and gorillas won't meet either! :)

Let's say they meet in some shallow bay, where the shark still has enough depth to maneuver. Let's further say that neither has the advantage of surprise.

I have to say, I was originally leaning toward the croc, but it looks like the shark is pulling ahead!
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: dug777
Depends who has the advantage of suprise, but they'd never meet, since white pointers aren't found up north, it's tiger sharks up there...


Well, bears and gorillas won't meet either! :)

Let's say they meet in some shallow bay, where the shark still has enough depth to maneuver. Let's further say that neither has the advantage of surprise.

I have to say, I was originally leaning toward the croc, but it looks like the shark is pulling ahead!

Read what stumps wrote mate ;)
 
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How would the croc kill the shark? They end up drowning a lot of their prey and that obviously wouldn't work. And their teeth aren't build for sawing off chunks of meet so it couldn't weaken the shark that way.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: dug777
Depends who has the advantage of suprise, but they'd never meet, since white pointers aren't found up north, it's tiger sharks up there...


Well, bears and gorillas won't meet either! :)

Let's say they meet in some shallow bay, where the shark still has enough depth to maneuver. Let's further say that neither has the advantage of surprise.

I have to say, I was originally leaning toward the croc, but it looks like the shark is pulling ahead!

Read what stumps wrote mate ;)

I saw that. I'm surprised a tiger shark could handle a saltie, unless they mainly attack smaller ones. Also, according to Wiki, Great Whites max out around 20 ft. So I figured with comparable size and greater jaw strength the croc would have a shot.

Poor saltie. :( Maybe I should add Steve Irwin to the poll so he'll have something to chew on.
 

dug777

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well, since i can't imagine the big ones ever leave their comfy mangrove swamps or river pools....or a shark being stupid enough to attack a big salty...

My folks have UW photos of a salty that was always hanging around one of their favourite dive sites in the solomons, not that big tho.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: dug777
Depends who has the advantage of suprise, but they'd never meet, since white pointers aren't found up north, it's tiger sharks up there...


Well, bears and gorillas won't meet either! :)

Let's say they meet in some shallow bay, where the shark still has enough depth to maneuver. Let's further say that neither has the advantage of surprise.

I have to say, I was originally leaning toward the croc, but it looks like the shark is pulling ahead!

Read what stumps wrote mate ;)

I saw that. I'm surprised a tiger shark could handle a saltie, unless they mainly attack smaller ones. Also, according to Wiki, Great Whites max out around 20 ft. So I figured with comparable size and greater jaw strength the croc would have a shot.

Poor saltie. :( Maybe I should add Steve Irwin to the poll so he'll have something to chew on.

ahhh wiki, how wrong can it be?.. I saw a 26 footer on the piers at Bermagui(the shark was caught off of Montegue Island) when I was 13(I was living at Tuross heads at the time), I still remember the huge mouth and all those teeth.

What always got me thought was the fact that the 3 guys who caught it where only in an 18 foot boat(Powerhead FTW).
 

y2kc

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It would depend on where they meet I think.

Lion vs. Tiger; that would be interesting....
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: y2kc
It would depend on where they meet I think.

Lion vs. Tiger; that would be interesting....

Siberian Tiger would lay the fvck down ;)

A Liger or Tigon would fvck them a;ll up tho, since the hybrid cats get MUCH bigger...
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Inspired by the Gorilla vs Bear thread.

Here are your stats:

Croc: Up to 20 ft long and 3300 lbs. Capable of crushing a full grown buffalo's skull in its jaws.

Great White: Up to 20 ft long and 4000 lbs. Has serrated teeth and massive jaw pressure. Doesn't usually tangle with larger prey (such as sea lions).

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Ar9...+and+weights&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=21

23 foot white is still the world record there have to be bigger ones out there...
and you are wrong about the diet..
they do eat sealions galore especially the California Whites... why do you think they love the Farralon Islands so much.. becasue the California Sea Lion calls this area home and are plentiful food supply.
 

Alienwho

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: y2kc
It would depend on where they meet I think.

Lion vs. Tiger; that would be interesting....

Siberian Tiger would lay the fvck down ;)

A Liger or Tigon would fvck them a;ll up tho, since the hybrid cats get MUCH bigger...
I believe only ligers get larger, and tigons are actually smaller than the average lion or tiger. I also am pretty sure I read/saw something stating that a MALE lion would win over a tiger, because the mane makes his neck almost impeneratable to jaws and it has a more boxer like strong stance.

As for the croc/shark. I would think the sharks teeth Would have a tough time cutting through the scales of the croc and actually doing any damage. And the crocs teeth are built more for grip as it simply twists and pulls off chunks of flesh, which wouldn't work so easily with a shark.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: y2kc
It would depend on where they meet I think.

Lion vs. Tiger; that would be interesting....

Siberian Tiger would lay the fvck down ;)

A Liger or Tigon would fvck them a;ll up tho, since the hybrid cats get MUCH bigger...
I believe only ligers get larger, and tigons are actually smaller than the average lion or tiger. I also am pretty sure I read/saw something stating that a MALE lion would win over a tiger, because the mane makes his neck almost impeneratable to jaws and it has a more boxer like strong stance.

As for the croc/shark. I would think the sharks teeth Would have a tough time cutting through the scales of the croc and actually doing any damage. And the crocs teeth are built more for grip as it simply twists and pulls off chunks of flesh, which wouldn't work so easily with a shark.

I was just going on what we were told at the zoo the other day regarding the size of the hybrid animals i have to admit ;)

 

Shlong

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Wasn't there a show on the Discovery channel about this subject last year or something?
 

Ricochet

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Neither would approach each other. They would only go for manageble prey.

I saw a nature show where a bengal tiger was swimming across a pond or small lake. The crocs in the vicinity won't even dare go near the tiger. I thought that was rather odd.
 

Rubycon

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Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?
 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Why do we have these silly threads based on competing species that would never encounter each other in a natural setting?

Because it's fun to discuss?