Sailor kills Marine after woman lies to sailor that the marine raped her!!

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AbAbber2k

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The guy is an idiot for killing the guy and he is 100% accountable for his actions. That said, I believe that false rape allegations should always be punished.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

True, but some blame lies with the woman. First, she DID lie about a rape. I think the punishment for that should be the same as that for comitting a rape (including being placed on the sex offender registry). Second, she might have known what the consequences of her calling rape would have been. If she knew that the guy would likely take matters into his own hands, then she is just as responsible.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Sqube
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

Not her fault, but her actions certainly influenced the end result, don't you think? I mean, does what she did have no bearing on the situation? I think it does.

Influenced? Sure. Who made the concious decision to premeditate, lie, come up with a story, and then kill the Marine? Done. Even if she had told him to do it, it's called saying no.

If someone raped my sister I'd be tempted to kill the guy, but I wouldn't be dumb enough to kill someone. There's a point where nothing anyone says should influence your decision to commit murder. Any logic or reasoning to try to defend that is just beyond me.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

True, but some blame lies with the woman. First, she DID lie about a rape. I think the punishment for that should be the same as that for comitting a rape (including being placed on the sex offender registry). Second, she might have known what the consequences of her calling rape would have been. If she knew that the guy would likely take matters into his own hands, then she is just as responsible.

I'm not saying she didn't influence him, but at some point the conscious decision to kill someone shouldn't be influenced by others.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

True, but some blame lies with the woman. First, she DID lie about a rape. I think the punishment for that should be the same as that for comitting a rape (including being placed on the sex offender registry). Second, she might have known what the consequences of her calling rape would have been. If she knew that the guy would likely take matters into his own hands, then she is just as responsible.

I'm not saying she didn't influence him, but at some point the conscious decision to kill someone shouldn't be influenced by others.

I think you are missing the point. I am not saying that he is not 100% at fault. I am saying that she is ALSO partially at fault.
 

Sqube

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Sqube
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

Not her fault, but her actions certainly influenced the end result, don't you think? I mean, does what she did have no bearing on the situation? I think it does.

Influenced? Sure. Who made the concious decision to premeditate, lie, come up with a story, and then kill the Marine? Done. Even if she had told him to do it, it's called saying no.

If someone raped my sister I'd be tempted to kill the guy, but I wouldn't be dumb enough to kill someone. There's a point where nothing anyone says should influence your decision to commit murder. Any logic or reasoning to try to defend that is just beyond me.

I'm not trying to defend what the guy did, and I'm not saying that she is as guilty as he is. I am, however, saying that she should shoulder a little blame.

If she hadn't said anything, I think the odds of this murder happening are ludicrously low. Seen from that point of view, I feel that she should have some sort of culpability. I'm not saying accessory to murder, or muder, or anything like that. He's responsible for what he did. But damn, she had something to do with it. She shouldn't just be able to walk away from the situation like nothing ever happened.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

True, but some blame lies with the woman. First, she DID lie about a rape. I think the punishment for that should be the same as that for comitting a rape (including being placed on the sex offender registry). Second, she might have known what the consequences of her calling rape would have been. If she knew that the guy would likely take matters into his own hands, then she is just as responsible.

I'm not saying she didn't influence him, but at some point the conscious decision to kill someone shouldn't be influenced by others.

I think you are missing the point. I am not saying that he is not 100% at fault. I am saying that she is ALSO partially at fault.

Influenced, sure. Partially at fault? Maybe, unless she helped in the premeditation of the murder or asked him to kill the Marine. I see your point and think the bitch should get some kind of punishment, but in the end the only person who killed the Marine was the guy with the knife in his hands.
 

senseamp

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So let me get this straight, he looked at a picture of that cow and actually believed that there are multiple men who'd want to rape her?
What a moron.
 

b0mbrman

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So, if the woman had actually been raped (and if she was attractive) the sailor's punishment should be...?
 

sandmanwake

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The woman should at least be charged with involuntary man slaughter. Plus, any one who cries rape falsely should be charged and registered as a sex offender.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I think you are missing the point. I am not saying that he is not 100% at fault. I am saying that she is ALSO partially at fault.

So he's 100% at fault, and she's partially at fault as well?

I guess they really gave 110% in this crime, didn't they?:D

He is being rightfully tried for murder. She should also be tried for false testimony.
 

rbV5

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In all seriousness though, the woman should at least be charged with involuntary man slaughter. Plus, any one who cries rape falsely should be charged and registered as a sex offender.

For lying to a serviceman? Please:roll:

The real tragety here is that there is a plea deal to save that moron's life after pre-meditated murder of an innocent party over a stranger's lie. He didn't even know her real name. "Fooled" into falling in love? "Fooled" into murder...Get real.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: senseamp
So let me get this straight, he looked at a picture of that cow and actually believed that there are multiple men who'd want to rape her?
What a moron.

You'd be surprised how many desperate, pathetic losers are out there.
 

Paddington

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Originally posted by: rbV5
In all seriousness though, the woman should at least be charged with involuntary man slaughter. Plus, any one who cries rape falsely should be charged and registered as a sex offender.

For lying to a serviceman? Please:roll:

The real tragety here is that there is a plea deal to save that moron's life after pre-meditated murder of an innocent party over a stranger's lie. He didn't even know her real name. "Fooled" into falling in love? "Fooled" into murder...Get real.

If ever there was a just application for the death penalty, and if ever there was a case with cut and dry evidence to prosecute, I would have thought that this would be it. I wonder why the prosecution is acting so desperate to give this loser a deal.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Paddington
Originally posted by: rbV5
In all seriousness though, the woman should at least be charged with involuntary man slaughter. Plus, any one who cries rape falsely should be charged and registered as a sex offender.

For lying to a serviceman? Please:roll:

The real tragety here is that there is a plea deal to save that moron's life after pre-meditated murder of an innocent party over a stranger's lie. He didn't even know her real name. "Fooled" into falling in love? "Fooled" into murder...Get real.

If ever there was a just application for the death penalty, and if ever there was a case with cut and dry evidence to prosecute, I would have thought that this would be it. I wonder why the prosecution is acting so desperate to give this loser a deal.

I certainly hope Cpl. Justin L. Huff's family is asking the same thing. The judge doesn't have to accept the plea.

 

dennilfloss

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Originally posted by: JoeFahey
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

Jeez, it took way too long for this correct point to be made.

What stopped you from making it earlier then?

 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Originally posted by: JoeFahey
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

Jeez, it took way too long for this correct point to be made.

What stopped you from making it earlier then?

I told him not to.
 
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well she never reported rape, she just told him that she got raped buy some guy named huff (at least she claims)

it doesnt seem it was this guys plan to kill him but to investigate, but then he realized he kidnapped someone and pretended to be someone he wasn't and most likely wasn't going to get away with it so he killed him so that he wouldn't be found out, not as revenge for the "rape"


since his reason for the murder was to avoid being detected of his crimes, not as revenge it is even less his fault

on the other hand she is a bitch
 

JoeFahey

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Originally posted by: JoeFahey
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So it's the woman's fault that a guy took the life of another guy? No. It's the sailor's fault. Period. Don't take the law into your own hands.

Jeez, it took way too long for this correct point to be made.

What stopped you from making it earlier then?

Felix told me not to.
 

santz

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Originally posted by: senseamp
So let me get this straight, he looked at a picture of that cow and actually believed that there are multiple men who'd want to rape her?
What a moron.

In the article it says,
they never met, but spoke over a thousand times over the phone in 2 months. the woman also lied about her name as samantha instead of eldod or something. the marine was a father of a brand new baby and husband of a wife.

I think its sad how easily a seemingly innocent life can ruin so many lives so quickly. This should also be a lesson to all of us. If you want to play a big practical joke, make sure you understand the nature of the other person before playing the joke, ****** can happen!
 

Number1

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Rant on.
Where are all the ATOT vigilante tough guys tonight? I?d love to rub this story in their faces.

You can meet some of them in this thread.

I read it quite frequently on these boards. Typical Quote from them: ?If I?d heard that so and so raped, killed, paraded naked in front of (insert significant other here), I would kill so and so myself and gladly go to jail for the rest of my life. It?s the only way to get justice done because the justice system would let them go with a slap on the hand?.

Never mind making sure the accused is guilty or not. That?s not important hey guys.

Rant off.

Vigilantism is wrong in all circumstances.
It is against the law.
That is all.