sadistic cop kills family golden retriever

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DrunkenSano

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A dog playing with an owner is a dog that would never become aggressive against a stranger, I guess that's a fact now.
 

DrunkenSano

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I live in a sad world? You live in Jersey. Man, the ironing is delicious

And I don't have problems with police officers and I know some police officers, they are great guys. Got pulled over once for speeding, twenty over the limit. Just bought my bluray player that day and wanted to get home fast, officer was very understanding and knocked it down to failure to signal which is a lot better than speeding 20+. He was full of corrupt power, I know right.
 

AMDZen

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A dog playing with an owner is a dog that would never become aggressive against a stranger, I guess that's a fact now.

And because I believe, and have all the evidence in the world to back it up, that a hunger for power is usually a trait of someone who wants to become a cop - I must also believe that all cops are completely corrupt with power and want nothing more then to abuse it, I guess that's a fact now.
 

FDF12389

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Doesn't really show/tell us much. Except the dogs brown maybe :D

It tells you that it was about 50-60 pounds. Appears to be purebred. More details than you guys had before.

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Reached by telephone, King's neighbor who said he witnessed the shooting, and who asked that his name not be used, said the shooting was unwarranted.

"He's not an attack dog," the neighbor said of Boomer. "He's a golden retriever and that's it."

"Just because he's a police officer doesn't mean he can walk into someone's yard and shoot their dog," he said.

Resume mud slinging .
 

Juddog

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And because I believe, and have all the evidence in the world to back it up, that a hunger for power is usually a trait of someone who wants to become a cop - I must also believe that all cops are completely corrupt with power and want nothing more then to abuse it, I guess that's a fact now.

So in your world almost all cops are just power hungry sadists?
 

AMDZen

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It tells you that it was about 50-60 pounds. Appears to be purebred. More details than you guys had before.

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Resume mud slinging .

Good thing his neighbor is someone intelligent and not a complete douche jew dog or buddha bitch.

Hopefully the cop loses his job over this, at the very least


Take a few off.

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dabuddha

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It tells you that it was about 50-60 pounds. Appears to be purebred. More details than you guys had before.

Also:



Resume mud slinging .

Meh, like it's been stated before, dogs can snap in an instant. It doesn't take much to set one off.
 

mvbighead

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I'll just go ahead and avoid all the name-calling bullshit and simply say that I have dealt with an angry dog. Several in fact. Each one, when push comes to shove, backs down after being struck by a person. They don't typically attack the hand that feeds them. On occasion, when they are fighting other dogs and it is necessary to break it up, they might lash out and bite a hand. But when they see the aggressor as a person, they typically back down.

I apparently know nothing about dogs however, so I'll just leave it at that. Personally, the officer is a coward for a shooting a Golden Retriever. I could see shooting a Rottweiler or Pitt as they are commonly thought of as dangerous dogs, but a Golden Retriever is a your typical family dog. Air Bud, Air Bud Golden Receiver, Full House, and any other number of family shows/movies have them. But yet I am supposed to believe it was a vicious beast and the officer had no other alternative but to use deadly force. Gotcha.
 

surfsatwerk

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I'll just go ahead and avoid all the name-calling bullshit and simply say that I have dealt with an angry dog. Several in fact. Each one, when push comes to shove, backs down after being struck by a person. They don't typically attack the hand that feeds them. On occasion, when they are fighting other dogs and it is necessary to break it up, they might lash out and bite a hand. But when they see the aggressor as a person, they typically back down.

I apparently know nothing about dogs however, so I'll just leave it at that. Personally, the officer is a coward for a shooting a Golden Retriever. I could see shooting a Rottweiler or Pitt as they are commonly thought of as dangerous dogs, but a Golden Retriever is a your typical family dog. Air Bud, Air Bud Golden Receiver, Full House, and any other number of family shows/movies have them. But yet I am supposed to believe it was a vicious beast and the officer had no other alternative but to use deadly force. Gotcha.

You have never dealt with an out of control dog.
 

Zargon

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See my last post above. Trained police dog vs family golden retriever. There is a huge difference.

As for shifts and other such things, like I said, Golden Retriever. If some drawn blood is going to keep an officer out of work for 6-8 weeks, he/she should probably find another line of work.

psh, anyone can take their dog to k9 or belgian ring training. anyone.

go have a dog take a nice bite into you calf, amybe he'll get a ligament or tendon, see how long that takes to actually heal.

I'm just trying to remind some people what can EASILY happen in a scuffle with a dog.

I have never yet said it was a 'clean shoot' and that we need more details, just posting a alternate version than those suggestiog that he 'capped lassie'


as far as the 'neighbor kid' his story is more worthless and w/o detail than the original article
 

DrunkenSano

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mvbighead, unless someone has a video recording of what happened, we can only make assumptions. With your experiences with dogs, you see them mostly as harmless. With other people's experiences, they may disagree with you. I've seen large dogs do serious damage to people, my friend included.

If the officer did believe he may have been injured by the dog, the shooting is justifiable. Tragic, but justifiable. Just because he believed that doesn't make the cop a pussy or an idiot, because large dogs can snap. You can't say that they can't. Until we see clear evidence of what happened, we can only pick sides and make assumptions.

Having the story from the kid or the neighbor is pretty useless since both will be biased since they both deal with the dog on a regular basis, and would most likely side with it.
 

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Would it have been alright for someone with a CCW to have shot the dog? Or is that some sort of separate argument?
 

mvbighead

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psh, anyone can take their dog to k9 or belgian ring training. anyone.

go have a dog take a nice bite into you calf, amybe he'll get a ligament or tendon, see how long that takes to actually heal.

I'm just trying to remind some people what can EASILY happen in a scuffle with a dog.

I have never yet said it was a 'clean shoot' and that we need more details, just posting a alternate version than those suggestiog that he 'capped lassie'


as far as the 'neighbor kid' his story is more worthless and w/o detail than the original article

How many people take their pets to belgian ring training? That is so far outside of the realm of the normal, I will simply say that when encountering any dog in any yard, you could safely assume it hasn't been trained to fight.

As for capping lassie, well, it's a Golden Retriever... so yeah, I'll go ahead and assume it's Lassie and not HeinzFrugleSnorf, the German Shepherd purchased by the PD direct from Germany where it was trained to be a police attack/chase dog.

As far as being bitten, well, sure it can happen. But if he has a baton which he was trained to use, I would like to think he could manage a swift knock to the head before any blood was drawn. Not ninja style, but a simple bat swing... I mean, if he's an officer he's probably been in a physical education class before, right? One can assume that he played baseball at least in a gym class setting, right?

Seriously some of you are making so much of the officer's inability to protect himself without a firearm that it's laughable. Firearms should always be the last resort, not the first. I'd have no problem if he tazed the animal, and that resulted in the animal's death. At least at that point he tried other (typically considered) non-lethal means, but shooting a dog that is a known family dog breed is simply nuts. And there is no indication from the story that the officer tried any other course of action.
 

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mvbighead, unless someone has a video recording of what happened, we can only make assumptions. With your experiences with dogs, you see them mostly as harmless. With other people's experiences, they may disagree with you. I've seen large dogs do serious damage to people, my friend included.

If the officer did believe he may have been injured by the dog, the shooting is justifiable. Tragic, but justifiable. Just because he believed that doesn't make the cop a pussy or an idiot, because large dogs can snap. You can't say that they can't. Until we see clear evidence of what happened, we can only pick sides and make assumptions.

Having the story from the kid or the neighbor is pretty useless since both will be biased since they both deal with the dog on a regular basis, and would most likely side with it.

That sums it up. Also keep in mind, those that are arguing for the cop would have preferred the dog not have been shot/killed. We're just saying the cop was justified in shooting the dog if it was coming after him.
 

DrunkenSano

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Would it have been alright for someone with a CCW to have shot the dog? Or is that some sort of separate argument?

In my opinion, justifiable but tragic, just the same as the police officer. It's a case of someone defending themselves from something they believe can deal them serious bodily harm.
 

DrunkenSano

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Seriously some of you are making so much of the officer's inability to protect himself without a firearm that it's laughable. Firearms should always be the last resort, not the first. I'd have no problem if he tazed the animal, and that resulted in the animal's death. At least at that point he tried other (typically considered) non-lethal means, but shooting a dog that is a known family dog breed is simply nuts. And there is no indication from the story that the officer tried any other course of action.

I don't think every officer is armed with a taser, I could be wrong but if he was armed with a taser and a gun, then I agree, the taser would've been a better and the correct option. As for the baton, I don't agree with that option. Police training trains them to use batons against humans, not animals. Dogs are quicker than a human assailant they face. If the dog leaps and the police officer swings a half second late, the dog will be on him.
 

mvbighead

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Having the story from the kid or the neighbor is pretty useless since both will be biased since they both deal with the dog on a regular basis, and would most likely side with it.

This is exactly the point. They have first hand experience with the animal. It wasn't a beast. It was alarmed by a suspiciously dressed person, and went up barking at him. For that, it ended up dead.

Look, any many other contexts, this situation would've been right as rain. If the officer was serving a drug warrant on that particular premises, and the dog ran up to him, he could have reasonable suspicion to believe it was a guard/attack style dog. If it was a German Shepherd, Rott, or Pitt, he might have reason to believe it was a guard/attack dog.

Instead, he was passing by to a different place, and shot the dog because it ran at him while barking. And to top it off, the dog was a commonly known house pet Golden Retriever. Just using the norms/averages for all points considered, I would say his actions were in the wrong.
 

DrunkenSano

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This is exactly the point. They have first hand experience with the animal. It wasn't a beast. It was alarmed by a suspiciously dressed person, and went up barking at him. For that, it ended up dead.

I've heard stories where dogs that were perfectly behaved with family and friends suddenly snap and bite strangers. Not just playful nips, deep cut bites.
 

Juddog

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You really are a complete, and total waste of human life.

You should take a look in the mirror.

Good thing his neighbor is someone intelligent and not a complete douche jew dog or buddha bitch.

Hopefully the cop loses his job over this, at the very least

You're a downright racist cop hater, that much is clear. You somehow feel that you would rather a cop risk life and limb for a family pet. Your view of reality is simply skewed beyond recognition.
 

mvbighead

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I don't think every officer is armed with a taser, I could be wrong but if he was armed with a taser and a gun, then I agree, the taser would've been a better and the correct option. As for the baton, I don't agree with that option. Police training trains them to use batons against humans, not animals. Dogs are quicker than a human assailant they face. If the dog leaps and the police officer swings a half second late, the dog will be on him.

Dogs are not keen on fighting tactics either. They seldom juke/jive/dip (like a professional boxer (not the dog breed)) to avoid blows. If you want to hit a dog, you're not likely to be blocked in the process.

Again, were talking about a trained officer hitting a dog, not an officer fighting someone trained in the art of Jujitsu. It's not complicated. The baton is a smaller, swift striking weapon that they are trained to use. I see no reason as to why that is a poor choice for self defense against an animal.
 

Zargon

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How many people take their pets to belgian ring training? That is so far outside of the realm of the normal, I will simply say that when encountering any dog in any yard, you could safely assume it hasn't been trained to fight.

As for capping lassie, well, it's a Golden Retriever... so yeah, I'll go ahead and assume it's Lassie and not HeinzFrugleSnorf, the German Shepherd purchased by the PD direct from Germany where it was trained to be a police attack/chase dog.

As far as being bitten, well, sure it can happen. But if he has a baton which he was trained to use, I would like to think he could manage a swift knock to the head before any blood was drawn. Not ninja style, but a simple bat swing... I mean, if he's an officer he's probably been in a physical education class before, right? One can assume that he played baseball at least in a gym class setting, right?

Seriously some of you are making so much of the officer's inability to protect himself without a firearm that it's laughable. Firearms should always be the last resort, not the first. I'd have no problem if he tazed the animal, and that resulted in the animal's death. At least at that point he tried other (typically considered) non-lethal means, but shooting a dog that is a known family dog breed is simply nuts. And there is no indication from the story that the officer tried any other course of action.

more dogs go to belgian ring that you might think ;)

but its funny that as some suggest alternate realities that someof you go NO THE DOG WAS JUST BEING NICE PERIOD NOTHING ELSE IS POSSIBLE. seriously. also dogs dont need to be 'trained to fight', its instictive, you should see my lab go after his play buddy in the back yard.

also, for about the millionth time that I have posted this in ATOT. Not all cops have tasers. Its department by department.

I also said before, yes the gun shouldnt be the first option. they are also trained to draw and shoot if a thread broaches the 20ft mark.

what I really think happened? tragic accident, dog startled the shit out of him from behind as he was watching the suspect truck and he shot the dog

but thats all just crap because we have no real info on it.