Saddam's daughter wants fair trial

Red Dawn · Dec 20, 2003

Raghad Hussein, the eldest daughter of Saddam Hussein, wants her father to have a trial under international supervision. Raghad Hussien?? LOL obviously he had a sense of humor

heartsurgeon · Dec 20, 2003

to borrrow a phrase from the other forum OT,

pics?

Gaard · Dec 20, 2003

Did you click on the link?

BaliBabyDoc · Dec 20, 2003

Did you click on the link?

Clicking a link is beneath him . . . that's a job for the intern.

kage69 · Dec 20, 2003

"I witnessed through my years his strength, his endurance through all the difficult periods he went through. He was always proud and dignified and his courage was well known, even to his enemies."

My god what a dumb b!tch!

I wonder what she thought of his strength, endurance, and courage when he had her husband and brother-in-law murdered. Takes a lot of dignity to prune one's family tree I guess.

Someone needs to gag this mindless wench.

SillyMan · Dec 20, 2003

His trail should be as fair as the ones he gave others

Mean MrMustard · Dec 20, 2003

Originally posted by: SillyMan
His trail should be as fair as the ones he gave others

Yes! We must bring ourselves down to his level.

SillyMan · Dec 20, 2003

do unto others as you would have them do unto you
I just thought thats what he would want done to himself since
he gave such fair trials to others

Wolfdog · Dec 20, 2003

Yes, lets do a half buttock job on trying a former leader. Now thats showing the true american way!

LongCoolMother · Dec 20, 2003

is this one of the daughters that had her husband killed by her own father? i remember one of the daughters still liked saddam even after he killed her husband. what a b!tch.

Moonbeam · Dec 20, 2003

Anybody that thinks he shouldn't get a fair tiral should be shot.

LunarRay · Dec 20, 2003

Originally posted by: Wolfdog
Yes, lets do a half buttock job on trying a former leader. Now thats showing the true american way!

We should show the world that we are greater than the temptation to be less than we are. The rule of law sustains us. The absence of it defines them.

Dari · Dec 20, 2003

Raghad. Enough said.

Zebo · Dec 20, 2003

Originally posted by: kage69

"I witnessed through my years his strength, his endurance through all the difficult periods he went through. He was always proud and dignified and his courage was well known, even to his enemies."

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My god what a dumb b!tch!

I wonder what she thought of his strength, endurance, and courage when he had her husband and brother-in-law murdered. Takes a lot of dignity to prune one's family tree I guess.

Someone needs to gag this mindless wench.

Bloods thicker than water.

kage69 · Dec 20, 2003

Yeah, heard it before, but I guess I was hoping that ol Raghad here would take her own murdered family into consideration (estimates range up to 40 members of his clan killed at his order, not just the two husbands) in addition to all the other Iraqis he shoved in the hole. There comes a point when one should draw a line.

Moonbeam · Dec 21, 2003

Originally posted by: kage69
Yeah, heard it before, but I guess I was hoping that ol Raghad here would take her own murdered family into consideration (estimates range up to 40 members of his clan killed at his order, not just the two husbands) in addition to all the other Iraqis he shoved in the hole. There comes a point when one should draw a line.

That was obvious back when he and Ron were buds.

AndrewR · Dec 21, 2003

Wait, Saddam hasn't been convicted of anything yet so shouldn't we be calling him an "alleged" dictator/murderer/torturer?

heartsurgeon · Dec 21, 2003

that's a job for the intern

is this some sort of reference to Monica Lewinsky?

heartsurgeon · Dec 21, 2003

"He was a very good father, loving, has a big heart," Raghdad said. Asked if she wanted to give a message to her father, she said: "I love you and I miss you."

linky

rather curious statements since dear ol' dad shot her husband dead in 1996.

rickn · Dec 21, 2003

Originally posted by: kage69

"I witnessed through my years his strength, his endurance through all the difficult periods he went through. He was always proud and dignified and his courage was well known, even to his enemies."

Click to expand...

My god what a dumb b!tch!

I wonder what she thought of his strength, endurance, and courage when he had her husband and brother-in-law murdered. Takes a lot of dignity to prune one's family tree I guess.

Someone needs to gag this mindless wench.

she's the product of inbreeding. fambly members stick together

Moonbeam · Dec 21, 2003

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: kage69

"I witnessed through my years his strength, his endurance through all the difficult periods he went through. He was always proud and dignified and his courage was well known, even to his enemies."

Click to expand...

My god what a dumb b!tch!

I wonder what she thought of his strength, endurance, and courage when he had her husband and brother-in-law murdered. Takes a lot of dignity to prune one's family tree I guess.

Someone needs to gag this mindless wench.

Click to expand...

she's the product of inbreeding. fambly members stick together

It's facinating how we can see the stupidity of other people's opinions and not the possibility that our own are equally stupid.

LunarRay · Dec 21, 2003

Saddam's daughter speaks from a personal POV. Saddam to her is Daddy not President. Should she not love her father? She may hate the dictator or may not but, I don't think the fact that she has another POV or opinion should reduce her to be called such vulgar names. She is human. If she supported her father's endevors then she should be faulted to the extent she supported and to the extent he did illegal and or inhumane acts and she knew of this.
At the end of the day Saddam is also human. It is reasonably clear that he is at least a monster.. assuming what we've heard is true. He deserves nothing less than fairness. The fairness we demand for ourselves.

I actually think there may be an issue regarding the invasion and Saddam's overthrow. Not sure that any where in all the UN Iraqi resolutions actually call for his removal.. in fact, 1441 recognizes the sovereignty of Iraq..

novowel · Dec 21, 2003

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
to borrrow a phrase from the other forum OT,

pics?

first rule of ot

kage69 · Dec 21, 2003

That was obvious back when he and Ron were buds

Heh, fair one.

Saddam's daughter speaks from a personal POV. Saddam to her is Daddy not President. Should she not love her father? She may hate the dictator or may not but, I don't think the fact that she has another POV or opinion should reduce her to be called such vulgar names. She is human. If she supported her father's endevors then she should be faulted to the extent she supported and to the extent he did illegal and or inhumane acts and she knew of this.

True enough, but like I said, there comes a point when one has to draw a line. I've heard of family members turning in loved ones because they were murderers or rapists - I guess it's my Meng-tzu side showing, that I consider people to be inherently good and well meaning (requiring outside influences to become evil). Wanting to protect a family member is natural, but there comes a point when even that shouldn't blind one to a family member being a direct threat to the greater good. Being responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths definetly fits that criteria in my book. I do think he should get a fair trial, I just think all of her plaudits for her father are bullsh!t. History has shown us that he is neither honorable, courageous, or dignified, but I will conceed on him being proud. I think she knew what her dad was all about, else she wouldn't have fled to Jordan like she did.
Perhaps she is moved to speak on his behalf becuase she knows full well what the result of a guilty verdict will be. I can't deny that a daughter would be distraught over the imminent demise of her father.

LunarRay · Dec 21, 2003

Kage,
I guess I'm focused on her hope for a fair trial and the comments made regarding her POV of her father. No doubt she would overlook or look the other way on some stuff.. but remember she is Iraqi.. living as a female Iraqi... They, as I understand it, have nothing to do with nor concern themselves with 'mens' work.. so.. I accept her as I find her, a female Iraqi whose dad happens to be charged with all sorts of crimes.. she should 'support' him.. (Iraqi style...)

I agree with the turning in issue. There are many who do and many who don't.. it is a culture thing I think.. some cultures don't care about the crime but focus on the the differences between they and the majority of a society. Or visa versa.

I don't doubt we are born innocent and malleable... it is how good becomes evil.. I guess.

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