So much for unconditional inspections, I heard them talking about it today on the radio so I don't have a link. Anyways Saddam says they can ONLY inspect military bases not anywhere else.
Saddam sets conditions for the unconditional return of inspectors..........Doh!
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It doesn't matter, satellite evidence and knowledge we've gained from defectors prove that Hussein has sh-t hidden all over the freaking country; under schools, in people's homes, in the freaking middle of nowhere buried in the ground with no way to find it other than by GPS, everywhere. We'll never find a fraction of the crap he has stashed away, we've waited too long.
One of Clinton's main Political Advisers speaks about Saddam.....................
- 09/18/2002 FOX
Saddam Thinks He's Dealing with Clinton
"Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has underestimated the resolve of President Bush because he's used to dealing with president Bill Clinton."
So says former top White House political advisor Dick Morris, who shared the observation with Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes".
"Saddam Hussein thinks he's still dealing with Clinton, where he can get away with this and get away with that and he won't trigger a response," he told the Fox News duo. "What he doesn't understand is that Bush is waiting for him to do that and then he's going to pounce."
Morris predicted that Hussein's latest gambit to outfox the Bush administration with new weapons inspections will backfire.
"Now he [Bush] has Saddam Hussein exactly where he wants him, committed to 'unfettered inspections'," Morris observed. "And the first fetter that Saddam puts on those inspections, the first little comma - Bush is going to cross the border."
For those who think the Clinton advisor-turned-Clinton-critic has become something of a Bush administration booster, Morris had some surprising news.
Asked who he voted for in the 2000 presidential election he revealed without hesitating, "I voted for Gore."
Bush hasn't convinced me yet that we need to invade. However, Saddam and his games make me think more and more that it may be the best thing after all. I just wish there was a way to get more support from the UN so the Arabs will have to give a second thought about complaining.
I couldn't find a link about the conditions set by Saddam, but here's an excerpted bit about what previous UN inspectors think:
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But Richard Butler, chief weapons inspector from 1997-1999, told CNN that the commitment, made in a letter to the U.N., "has a big black hole in it." (Text of letter)
He said: "It is a very snakey letter. Without unfettered access, we haven't got a snowball's chance in hell.
"'Come back to the country without conditions' sounds good, but what we really needed to hear (was) you can inspect without conditions," Butler added.
David Kay, who served as the chief U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991-93, doubted that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction could be discovered and destroyed without at least 1,000 inspectors and 100 helicopters.
"Things are being hidden. The Iraqis have mobilised, militarised... moved things around, moved them into facilities that are inherently difficult to inspect," he said.
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But Richard Butler, chief weapons inspector from 1997-1999, told CNN that the commitment, made in a letter to the U.N., "has a big black hole in it." (Text of letter)
He said: "It is a very snakey letter. Without unfettered access, we haven't got a snowball's chance in hell.
"'Come back to the country without conditions' sounds good, but what we really needed to hear (was) you can inspect without conditions," Butler added.
David Kay, who served as the chief U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991-93, doubted that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction could be discovered and destroyed without at least 1,000 inspectors and 100 helicopters.
"Things are being hidden. The Iraqis have mobilised, militarised... moved things around, moved them into facilities that are inherently difficult to inspect," he said.
And by contrast, here is just one part of exactly what Iraq agreed to.
- Resolution 1284; the council laid down exactly what Iraq should do to cooperate with weapons inspectors from the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) which took over from the previous body UNSCOM.
>"Iraq shall allow UNMOVIC immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to any and all areas, lands, facilities, equipment, records, personell, and means of transport which they wish to inspect immeadiately upon request ... as well as to all officials and other persons under the authority of the Iraqi government whom UNMOVIC wishes to interview," the resolution says in article 4.
The resolution makes clear that UNMOVIC will not only inspect - it will remain in Iraq to monitor.
>Article 7 says that UNMOVIC and the International Atomic Energy Agency will, within 60 days of starting work in Iraq, "each draw up, for approval by the Council, a work programme for the discharge of their mandates, which will include both the implementation of the reinforced system of ongoing monitoring and verification and the key remain disarmament task to be completed by Iraq".
Saddam is toast.
The latest Gallup Poll shows that the majority of Americans are behind Bush. His approval rating is like 70%. If the U.N. doesn't get their head out of their ass then Bush will have no problems going in alone with the American public backing him.
The latest Gallup Poll shows that the majority of Americans are behind Bush. His approval rating is like 70%. If the U.N. doesn't get their head out of their ass then Bush will have no problems going in alone with the American public backing him.
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I was just about banging my head into the wall when I heard the FM of Russia say in essence that the problem had been solved and that we could all go home.
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*twiddles thumbs* It's coming...the end is coming for Saddam. And the people rejoyced! The only problem is that after we end his reign and put his head on a stake next to Osama's head on the White House lawn, how many billions is it going to cost to rebuild Iraq and feed the people? Last time I checked, we still had homeless and starving AMERICANS right here at home.
This is a no-win situation. However, we must pick the lesser of two evils; off with his head!!! That part of the world has been a festering dump-pail of human waste for decades now...time for some fresh air.
This is a no-win situation. However, we must pick the lesser of two evils; off with his head!!! That part of the world has been a festering dump-pail of human waste for decades now...time for some fresh air.
Most polls (which are essentially meaningless) show a Florida-sized majority would support the President in issueing a unilateral action against Iraq.
Most polling, conducted both in recent months and during the build-up prior to the Persian Gulf War in 1990 and early 1991, showed that Americans wanted Allied and U.N. involvement in any U.S. decision to go to war. In an early September 2002 poll, almost seven out of 10 Americans thought it was necessary for the Bush administration to get a resolution of support from the United Nations before proceeding with plans to attack Iraq.
Thus, it is not surprising that an additional question included in the latest poll shows that only a little more than a third of the public would endorse U.S. military action if the U.N. opposes it. Another 46% would support U.S. military action if the U.N. endorsed it, bringing the total percentage of the American public that would support U.S. military action -- if the U.N. endorses it -- to over 80%.
For the slow gray matter people, 37% support action if opposed by the UN. UN-support almost garners a majority by itself (46%).
Gallup polling
Per Rumsfeld . . . "they've got oil. It's not like those poor bastards in the rock garden known as Afghanistan". The last phrase has a touch of paraphrasing.
As much as the GOP hates taxes I wouldn't be surprised if we placed a surcharge on Iraqi crude to defray OUR costs.
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Here's a little joke I heard in a Philosophy (Critical Thinking) class.
Two pollsters go out hunting. Suddenly they were charged by a huge bear. This bear was intent on killing both of them. One pollster shot 10 feet to the left of the bear and the other shot 10 feet to the right of the bear. On average, they killed the bear.
Hopefully, our aim will be better with Saddam.
Two pollsters go out hunting. Suddenly they were charged by a huge bear. This bear was intent on killing both of them. One pollster shot 10 feet to the left of the bear and the other shot 10 feet to the right of the bear. On average, they killed the bear.
Hopefully, our aim will be better with Saddam.
Why is it I only see this info in here and not on a reputable news site?
So far, I call BS. Show proof that the "unconditional" has conditions.
So far, I call BS. Show proof that the "unconditional" has conditions.
The guy who brokered the "deal," the head of the Arab League in England (whose name or proper title I will not look up), said that there would be unconditional access to MILITARY sites. He also specifically said that this does NOT include presidential palaces (of which many are converted military/weapons facilities), hospitals (whose labs are used to manufacture some of this stuff), or schools. These places are some of the locations we would want inspected first, because Saddam has a track record of using "his" people as meat shields. He is hiding this stuff among the civilian sites.
So as you can see, there is no promise of unconditional go-where-you-need-to-go-to-be-sure-we-have-no-WMD's cooperation/inspections.
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