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Saddam Hussein gets Death by Hanging

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/05/dujail.saddam/index.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15567363/

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's High Tribunal on Sunday found Saddam Hussein guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced him to hang for the 1982 killing of 148 Shiites in the city of Dujail. The visibly shaken former leader shouted "God is great!"

Saddam's half brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, head of the former Revolutionary Court, were sentenced to join Saddam on the gallows for the Dujail killings after an unsuccessful assassination attempt during a Saddam visit to the city 35 miles north of Baghdad.

The death sentences automatically go to a nine-judge appeals panel which has unlimited time to review the case. If the verdicts and sentences are upheld, the executions must be carried out within 30 days.
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Chief prosecutor Jaafar al-Moussawi told reporters that the Anfal trial now in progress for Saddam and others alleged role in gassing and killing Kurds would continue while the appeals process is underway. But if the appellate judges uphold the death sentence, the Anfal proceedings and other cases would be halted and Saddam hanged.

Al-Moussawi said Saddam would be hanged if the sentence were upheld, despite his demand that he be shot by a firing squad.

A court official told The Associated Press that the appeals process was likely to take three to four weeks once the formal paperwork was submitted.

Clashes, celebrations
Clashes immediately broke out in north Baghdad's heavily Sunni Azamiyah district where police were battling men with machine guns. At least seven mortar shells slammed to earth around the Abu Hanifa mosque, the holiest Sunni shrine in the capital. There was no immediate word on casualties.

Celebratory gunfire rang out elsewhere in Baghdad, and the people in Sadr City, the capital's Shiite slum, celebrated in the streets, calling out "Where are you Saddam? We want to fight you."

Breathing heavily as he ran along the streets, 35-year-old Abu Sinan said, "This is an unprecedented feeling of happiness...nothing matches it, no festival nor marriage nor birth matches it. The verdict says Saddam must pay the price for murdering tens of thousands of Iraqis."

A jubilant crowd of young men carried pictures of radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and handed out candy to children.

In Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, 1,000 people defied the curfew and carried pictures of the city's favorite son through the streets.

Image: Iraqis celebrate
Karim Kadim / AP
Iraqis celebrate as the death sentence verdict for former leader Saddam Hussein is announced, in Baghdad's Shiite enclave of Sadr City on Sunday.
Some declared the court a product of the U.S. "occupation forces" and decried the verdict.

"By our souls, by our blood we sacrifice for you Saddam" and "Saddam your name shakes America."

People were celebrating in the streets of Dujail, a Tigris River city of 84,000, as the verdict was read. They burned pictures of their former tormentor.

Celebratory gunfire also rang out in Kurdish neighborhoods across the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, where taxi driver Khatab Ahmed sat on a mattress in his living room to watch trial coverage with his wife and six children.

"Thank God I lived to see the day when the criminals received their punishment," the 40-year-old exclaimed on hearing of Saddam's death sentence.

His brother and uncle were arrested by Saddam's security forces in the 1980s and disappeared forever. Two cousins died in a 1991 Kurdish uprising.

'An opportunity to unite'
The United States Embassy immediately issued a statement under the name of Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, who said the verdicts "demonstrate the commitment of the Iraqi people to hold them (Saddam and his co-defendants) accountable."

"Although the Iraqis may face difficult days in the coming weeks, closing the book on Saddam and his regime is an opportunity to unite and build a better future," Khalilzad said.

Saddam's chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaim told AP his client called on Iraqis to reject the sectarian violence ripping the country apart and to "not take revenge" on U.S. invaders.

"The message from President Saddam to his people came during a meeting in Baghdad this morning, just before the so-called Iraqi court issued its verdict in his trial," al-Dulaimi said.

British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett praised the verdict by an Iraqi court. ?The evidence against him has been heard in full court, it has been tested in full court, and their verdict has been given in a court of the people against whom his crimes were committed,? she said.

After the verdict was read, a trembling Saddam yelled out, "Long live the people, and death to their enemies. Long live the glorious nation, and death to its enemies!"

He initially refused Chief Judge Raouf Adbul-Rahman's order to rise to hear the verdict and sentence. Two bailiffs lifted Saddam to his feet, and he remained standing but turned to one guard, telling him to stop twisting his arm.

Former Vice President and Saddam deputy Taha Yassin Ramadan was sentence to life in prison.

Three defendants were sentenced to 15 years in prison for torture and premeditated murder. Abdullah Kazim Ruwayyid and his son Mizhar Abdullah Ruwayyid were party officials Dujail, along with Ali Dayih Ali. They were believed responsible for the Dujail arrests.
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Mohammed Azawi Ali, a former Dujail Baath Party official, was acquitted for lack of evidence and immediately freed.

Before the trial began, one of Saddam's lawyers, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the Saddam trial a "travesty."

Abdul-Rahman pointed to Clark and said in English, "Get out."

'A lot of incriminating evidence'
The trial proceedings were shown on Iraqi and pan-Arab satellite television channels with a 20-minute delay. Ahead of the verdicts, several channels aired documentaries about Saddam's crackdowns on Kurds and Shiites. They also aired videotape of mass graves being uncovered after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Al-Masai television, run by the prominent Shiite Dawa party, played solemn music as it scrolled through snapshots of Iraqis who went missing under Saddam's 23-year rule.

Another Shiite channel, al-Furat, aired archive footage of Saddam from the 1980s proclaiming, "Everyone stands against the revolution, whether they are 100 or 2,000 or 10,000, I will chop their heads off and this doesn't shake a hair of me at all."

U.S. officials associated with the tribunal said Saddam's repeated courtroom outbursts during the nine-month trial may have played a key part in his conviction.

They cited his admission in a March 1 hearing that he had ordered the trial of 148 Shiites who were eventually executed, insisting that doing so was legal because they were suspected in an assassination attempt against him. "Where is the crime? Where is the crime?" he asked, standing before the panel of five judges.

Later in the same session, he argued that his co-defendants must be released and that because he was in charge, he alone must be tried. His outburst came a day after the prosecution presented a presidential decree with a signature they said was Saddam's approving death sentences for the 148 Shiites, their most direct evidence against him.

About 50 of those sentenced by "The Revolutionary Court" died during interrogation before they could go to the gallows. Some of those hanged were juveniles.

"Every time they (defendants) rose and spoke, they provided a lot of incriminating evidence," said one of the U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. "Saddam thought he had all the right answers, when in fact he was helping the court establish "command responsibility."

Under Saddam, Iraq's large bureaucracy showed consistent tendency to document government orders, policies and minutes of meetings. That, according to the U.S. officials, helped the prosecution produce more than 30 documents that clearly established the chair of command under Saddam an in relations to the campaign against residents of Dujail.

One document gave the names of every one from Dujail banished to a desert detention camp in southern Iraq. Another, prepared by a close Saddam aide, gave the president a blow by blow account of the punitive measures taken against the people of Dujail following the failed attempt on Saddam's life.

Saddam's trial had from the outset appeared to reflect the turmoil and violence prevailing in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion toppled the former president.

One of Saddam's lawyers was assassinated the day after the trial's opening session on Oct. 19, last year. Two more were later assassinated and a fourth one fled the country.

In January, chief judge Rizgar Amin, a Kurd, resigned after complaints by Shiite politicians that he had failed to keep control of court proceedings. He, in turn, complained of political interference in the trial. Another Kurd, Raouf Abdul-Rahman, replaced Amin.

Hearings were frequently disrupted by outbursts from Saddam and Ibrahim, with the two raging against what they said was the illegitimacy of the court, their bad treatment in the U.S.-run facility where they are being held and the lack of protection of their defense attorneys.

The defense lawyers contributed to the chaos in the courtroom by staging several boycotts.

Not that I am surprised
 
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Leros
Thanks for bringing me the news, but wrong forum.

Many times news is brought up here along with off topic. Two different types of discussion.

Well, the other forum is called politics and news. This is both politics and news.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
[gomer pyle] surprise surprise surprise[/gomer pyle] 🙂

He earned it, and deserves it.

And they really cant claim it was a kangaroo court because three were three death by hangings, a life sentence, three fifteen year sentences, and an aquittal handed out.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
I announced it in LA in Guild Wars


Lol, I haven't been to Lion's Arch in forever. Makes me wanna play again. I still gotta do Sorrow's Furnace.
 
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
wow.

I'm just shocked that something actually happened in this case.

It's so sudden. Took me off guard.


I'm not so shocked. The world was not gonna let this man walk. I wonder if he carried his get out of jail free card with him. Sucks to be him right now. Too bad his death has to be sudden, with no sufferage, like he caused his people he ruled over.


Allahu Akhbar! Yeah, right, fvck heads...hope I don't see ya on another plane.
 
So, remind me what executing Saddam accomplishes?

Deterrence? "Punishment" (whatever THAT means)? Or just the plain acting-out of bloodthirsty savagery?
 
Originally posted by: shira
So, remind me what executing Saddam accomplishes?

Deterrence? "Punishment" (whatever THAT means)? Or just the plain acting-out of bloodthirsty savagery?

Oh, please! Don't! I don't know you, but that was the dickheaded response most of us were expecting. Welcome to the thread.

 
So a mere formality--and with dubious credibility--it would have been credible if it came from the Hague--but the rest of the world is from Australia---and they know a Kangaroo court
when they see it.---and ejecting Ramsey Clark does not help.---but it is a feel good for kangaroos everywhere.

So the the new big question is when do they carry out the death sentence?---after all Saddam is 74 and could die of natural causes soon---or will they just hang him high asap.
For killing only 148 people---out of the 128,000 he is alleged responsible for.

But having disposed of that matter---maybe we can get on to more serious matters---like prosecuting GWB&co. for the 658,000 people they have managed to kill.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
So a mere formality--and with dubious credibility--it would have been credible if it came from the Hague--but the rest of the world is from Australia---and they know a Kangaroo court
when they see it.---and ejecting Ramsey Clark does not help.---but it is a feel good for kangaroos everywhere.

So the the new big question is when do they carry out the death sentence?---after all Saddam is 74 and could die of natural causes soon---or will they just hang him high asap.
For killing only 148 people---out of the 128,000 he is alleged responsible for.

But having disposed of that matter---maybe we can get on to more serious matters---like prosecuting GWB&co. for the 658,000 people they have managed to kill.

If it was a Kangaroo court you would have had 8 death by hangings. Not 3 death by hangings, 1 life sentence, 3 fifteen year sentences, and an aquittal.

Secondly, under Iraq's new constitution he has rights to appeal. However since the appellate system has yet to be setup it is going to be year before his appeals are heard.

Hes likely to die of natural causes.
 
To Wreckem,

Just back from yahoo news---there is an appeals procedure Saddam may or not be allowed---but once the final appeals court renders their verdict---sentence is carried out within 30 days
according to yahoo.

Already Sunni areas are showing signs of violence despite the curfew---time will tell how extensive it will get.

Nor is a mixed verdict any test of kangaroo court.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
wow.

I'm just shocked that something actually happened in this case.

It's so sudden. Took me off guard.


I'm not so shocked. The world was not gonna let this man walk. I wonder if he carried his get out of jail free card with him. Sucks to be him right now. Too bad his death has to be sudden, with no sufferage, like he caused his people he ruled over.


Allahu Akhbar! Yeah, right, fvck heads...hope I don't see ya on another plane.

What? Iraq under Saddam was a secular state. Alluah Akhbar? See who on a plane? WTH are you talking about. You're not really still trying to link Saddam with 9/11 are you? Because that would be really dumb.
 
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
wow.

I'm just shocked that something actually happened in this case.

It's so sudden. Took me off guard.


I'm not so shocked. The world was not gonna let this man walk. I wonder if he carried his get out of jail free card with him. Sucks to be him right now. Too bad his death has to be sudden, with no sufferage, like he caused his people he ruled over.


Allahu Akhbar! Yeah, right, fvck heads...hope I don't see ya on another plane.

What? Iraq under Saddam was a secular state. Alluah Akhbar? See who on a plane? WTH are you talking about. You're not really still trying to link Saddam with 9/11 are you? Because that would be really dumb.

No, another plane, also mean another playing field, just for clarity.

 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
[gomer pyle] surprise surprise surprise[/gomer pyle] 🙂

He earned it, and deserves it.

And they really cant claim it was a kangaroo court because three were three death by hangings, a life sentence, three fifteen year sentences, and an aquittal handed out.

How many trials do you know about where the defense team does not get to make final statements and the judge is kicked out like 3 weeks before the decision?
Edit: I also remember statements from officials before it even started that amounted to " We have to get this trial over quickly and the execution soon after."
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
wow.

I'm just shocked that something actually happened in this case.

It's so sudden. Took me off guard.


I'm not so shocked. The world was not gonna let this man walk. I wonder if he carried his get out of jail free card with him. Sucks to be him right now. Too bad his death has to be sudden, with no sufferage, like he caused his people he ruled over.


Allahu Akhbar! Yeah, right, fvck heads...hope I don't see ya on another plane.

What? Iraq under Saddam was a secular state. Alluah Akhbar? See who on a plane? WTH are you talking about. You're not really still trying to link Saddam with 9/11 are you? Because that would be really dumb.

No, another plane, also mean another playing field, just for clarity.

The word is plain, not plane. Frankly, from the tone of the original posting, this seems more like a Kerryesqe type reconstruction of a foot in the mouth statement than anything else.
 
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