Saddam and Weapons of Mass Destruction

Conky

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What are you Saddam supporters gonna say when he tells them where they are? I say we let the Saudis and Jordanians "interview" him in private. ;)

This is a great day for Americans... even you ungrateful Saddam-loving ones.
 

Piano Man

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I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.
 

magomago

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but what if he says there are none? Then what are we going to do? Everyone I know always seems to think he ran away with them to Syria or something similar to that, and none are willing to entertain the notion that they don't exist....and after 8ish months or so without a trace of weapons what are we to do if there really are none?
But I'm glad he is caught...though I seriously wonder how much of a threat he is hiding in some 6 foot mud pile in the ground (by the looks of it....doesn't sound like he was going anywhere or would do anything to risk himself)

 

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler
rolleye.gif
as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.
 

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.
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He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.

"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
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Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.
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He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.

"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."


Actually, I registered Republican in the last election and voted for Bush. Bush does look stupid in political cartoons, and is the single best reason I can think of for retaining him.

 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler
rolleye.gif
as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.

how exactly do you know that Bush knew nothing? you must be privy to some info that the rest of us are not. or did you use logic and reasoning [which seems to be a reliable quality of YABHs]? has it occurred to you that perhaps through the CIA or FBI that the President has some classified info that we do not? it sounds to me like you want to want to justify your hatred of Bush instead of just living with the fact that you hate him.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.


It has been said that he still feared his enemies and never wanted them to know if he still had WMD's or not.. sort of a false deterrent..

I think if he had them he would have used them on the American Soldiers...

If your country was being invaded and you could use WMD's to protect it... would you?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.


It has been said that he still feared his enemies and never wanted them to know if he still had WMD's or not.. sort of a false deterrent..

I think if he had them he would have used them on the American Soldiers...

If your country was being invaded and you could use WMD's to protect it... would you?

If you saw an American Army amassed on your border wouldn't you think you'd fold rather than continue to bluff?

CkG
 

wacki

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler
rolleye.gif
as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.

I don't understand people like you, and your "Overdone war on terror". Thankfully only 6,000 people died in the world trade center. I say thankfully, because if the terrorists had been only mildly more competent they could of easily made it 40,000 by hitting the towers within a few minutes of each other and more towards the bottom. But unfortunitally several of my brothers friends lost a parent or even both parents that day. Could you imagine, being in college and realizing some bastard slaughtered both of your parents? Not to mention 6,000 other innocent civilians. Pearl Harbor was bad enough because they killed military targets without a declaration of war. Sept 11th was a whole new breed of evil. And since you obviously don't pay attention to the news, no the war on terror won't be over. It will be easier, but people are still getting blown up almost daily over there because of hatred stemming back to WWII and beyond. And no, it wasn't our fault. France, Germany, Russia and to a limited degree Britain royally screwed up the middle east with false promises. The U.S. stepped in later trying to clean up the mess, but that was it. The U.S. never created the mess. Read about Lawrence of Arabia if you actually want to understand more about the situation, especially about the negotiations he went through.

As far as your comment "I know Bush knew nothing" read the David Kay report before you say something like that again.

"he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone." well I'm glad you have enough sense to atleast realize that. If your going to knock Bush atleast do it for a good reason. Say Bush should of pushed this war as a humanitarian effort / war on terror effort and not so much as an immanent threat. But getting rid of Saddam will help stabalize the middle east, which will make it safer for all of us.

 

wacki

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Originally posted by: brxndxn


"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."

Give me one lie. Go ahead try it.

Also "Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons." isn't a very logical reason not to vote for someone.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: wacki
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

He will say whatever they tell him too. Or at least they can say he did.

You now see the terrible Hitler
rolleye.gif
as he always was. A coward that was a real bastard towards his people, an no threat to us.

Hopefully, we can stick a fork in this overdone "war on terror" and get back to some semblence of normalcy, or at least after Bush is out of office. I expect him to win reelection because of this, and he could eat babies for dinner, and would still whoop Dean. I will still vote against him, because no matter what comes of this I know Bush knew nothing. I will not be distracted by whatever does or does not come of this.

Glad for the Iraqis though, because even if he was a paper tiger, he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone.

I don't understand people like you, and your "Overdone war on terror". Thankfully only 6,000 people died in the world trade center. I say thankfully, because if the terrorists had been only mildly more competent they could of easily made it 40,000 by hitting the towers within a few minutes of each other and more towards the bottom. But unfortunitally several of my brothers friends lost a parent or even both parents that day. Could you imagine, being in college and realizing some bastard slaughtered both of your parents? Not to mention 6,000 other innocent civilians. Pearl Harbor was bad enough because they killed military targets without a declaration of war. Sept 11th was a whole new breed of evil. And since you obviously don't pay attention to the news, no the war on terror won't be over. It will be easier, but people are still getting blown up almost daily over there because of hatred stemming back to WWII and beyond. And no, it wasn't our fault. France, Germany, Russia and to a limited degree Britain royally screwed up the middle east with false promises. The U.S. stepped in later trying to clean up the mess, but that was it. The U.S. never created the mess. Read about Lawrence of Arabia if you actually want to understand more about the situation, especially about the negotiations he went through.

As far as your comment "I know Bush knew nothing" read the David Kay report before you say something like that again.

"he was cruel to his own people and I am glad for them that he is finally gone." well I'm glad you have enough sense to atleast realize that. If your going to knock Bush atleast do it for a good reason. Say Bush should of pushed this war as a humanitarian effort / war on terror effort and not so much as an immanent threat. But getting rid of Saddam will help stabalize the middle east, which will make it safer for all of us.

If this had been Bin Laden, and not Saddam, and I had my POV you would have a point.

If Bin Laden had done that and been the leader if Iraq, you would have a point.

If Saddam had been the terrorist that struck, and not Bin Laden, you would have a point.

Since you cannot separate the two, you do not.
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
What are you Saddam supporters gonna say when he tells them where they are? I say we let the Saudis and Jordanians "interview" him in private. ;)

This is a great day for Americans... even you ungrateful Saddam-loving ones.

You are aptly named.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: wacki
Originally posted by: brxndxn


"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."

Give me one lie. Go ahead try it.


How about this one. 6,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks. ;)
 

phillyTIM

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NBC was talking that David Kay's investigation into these supposed WMDs is just about over - without finding a damn thing. they are about to resign themselves to the fact that there may not be anything out there to be found.

We've spent the past year and a half, diverting the US Army and US Government away from the true war on terror (saudi, pakistan, osama, al quaeda, etc.) and paid far too much blood and money for this sham.
 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
NBC was talking that David Kay's investigation into these supposed WMDs is just about over - without finding a damn thing. they are about to resign themselves to the fact that there may not be anything out there to be found.

We've spent the past year and a half, diverting the US Army and US Government away from the true war on terror (saudi, pakistan, osama, al quaeda, etc.) and paid far too much blood and money for this sham.


of course your forgetting the 40 acre hidden chemical factory(that was found washed clean for SOME reason), the mobile chem labs, missiles that were tracked in flight exceeding the 90km limit imposed by the UN, and his same MO of the past 13 years of stonewalling inspectors while the stuff they were looking for was trucked away...of course he had nothing to hide! ;)
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: wacki
Originally posted by: brxndxn


"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."

Give me one lie. Go ahead try it.

I immediacy of the threat posed by Iraq was a lie.
 

boran

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I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.
to retain an image of power and defiance, he made a mistake of judgement, and tought the US was bluffing, when he knew they were not it was too late.

And no, it wasn't our fault. France, Germany, Russia and to a limited degree Britain royally screwed up the middle east with false promises. The U.S. stepped in later trying to clean up the mess, but that was it. The U.S. never created the mess. Read about Lawrence of Arabia if you actually want to understand more about the situation, especially about the negotiations he went through.
it's really never your fault ainnit eh ? I think the US is equally guilty of creating a messy situation, the CIA helped the baath party to get their power in iraq in the first place, and then saddam seized power within his party, and became ruler of iraq, without US intervention it is very unlikely saddam would have gotten any power in iraq ever. (the baath party was a powerfull party but definetly not one of the majority and without CIA help it would not have ended up as sole leading party, that's for sure)

second, lets talk about bin laden. the US supplied him and his troops with weapons to fight the russians.

every intervention on behalf of the US turns out getting right back at them.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
NBC was talking that David Kay's investigation into these supposed WMDs is just about over - without finding a damn thing. they are about to resign themselves to the fact that there may not be anything out there to be found.

We've spent the past year and a half, diverting the US Army and US Government away from the true war on terror (saudi, pakistan, osama, al quaeda, etc.) and paid far too much blood and money for this sham.


of course your forgetting the 40 acre hidden chemical factory(that was found washed clean for SOME reason), the mobile chem labs, missiles that were tracked in flight exceeding the 90km limit imposed by the UN, and his same MO of the past 13 years of stonewalling inspectors while the stuff they were looking for was trucked away...of course he had nothing to hide! ;)

I Iraq posed such an immediate threat that it warranted the war, why haven't we found an ounce of chemical/biological weapons?

The truth is, we only found the labs, which were washed clean because the weapons were destroyed before the war.
 

MonkeyK

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.


It has been said that he still feared his enemies and never wanted them to know if he still had WMD's or not.. sort of a false deterrent..

I think if he had them he would have used them on the American Soldiers...

If your country was being invaded and you could use WMD's to protect it... would you?

If you saw an American Army amassed on your border wouldn't you think you'd fold rather than continue to bluff?

CkG


I thought that he did attempt to fold, but that we wouldn't have anything of it.
 

MonkeyK

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wanna know what's going to be said when he tell's them he destroyed them a LONG time ago. But that probably won't be published.

I also want to know why he stonewalled the UN and never gave 100% proof he destoryed the WMD's.


It has been said that he still feared his enemies and never wanted them to know if he still had WMD's or not.. sort of a false deterrent..

I think if he had them he would have used them on the American Soldiers...

If your country was being invaded and you could use WMD's to protect it... would you?

If you saw an American Army amassed on your border wouldn't you think you'd fold rather than continue to bluff?

CkG


I thought that he did attempt to fold, but that we wouldn't have anything of it.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
NBC was talking that David Kay's investigation into these supposed WMDs is just about over - without finding a damn thing. they are about to resign themselves to the fact that there may not be anything out there to be found.

We've spent the past year and a half, diverting the US Army and US Government away from the true war on terror (saudi, pakistan, osama, al quaeda, etc.) and paid far too much blood and money for this sham.


of course your forgetting the 40 acre hidden chemical factory(that was found washed clean for SOME reason), the mobile chem labs, missiles that were tracked in flight exceeding the 90km limit imposed by the UN, and his same MO of the past 13 years of stonewalling inspectors while the stuff they were looking for was trucked away...of course he had nothing to hide! ;)

I Iraq posed such an immediate threat that it warranted the war, why haven't we found an ounce of chemical/biological weapons?

The truth is, we only found the labs, which were washed clean because the weapons were destroyed before the war.

or perhaps it was a ruse to make it look like they destroyed the weapons before the war.
 

wacki

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: wacki
Originally posted by: brxndxn


"I'm a democrat and I was against Bush. I was against the war. It was all lies. Now that Saddam is captured, I am glad he's captured. Even though it took a war to capture him, I am still against the war but glad he's captured. Now, I will vote against Bush because he looks stupid in political cartoons."

Give me one lie. Go ahead try it.


How about this one. 6,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks. ;)

Ok my number was of, current toll is 2,801. 6,000 body bags were requested on september 12th. So sue me I got my numbers a little off. And don't even try to claim 2,800 innocents is a trivial number.

Oh wait I was wrong again, it's 2,801 innocents.