S3 looking a little better than last time possibly?

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90nm fab, 8 pixel pipes and apparently the highest clocked GPU of any to date. theyre also keen on performance per watt, and have a good set up for HDTV users

hexus
 

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
90nm fab, 8 pixel pipes and apparently the highest clocked GPU of any to date. theyre also keen on performance per watt, and have a good set up for HDTV users

hexus

Nice find... But there is no way S3 will be competitive with either ATI or nVidia. The card might be usable as a low end card, or possible teamed up with Intel in a mobile unit.
 

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I think it could be very competitive for driving a HTPC. I'll be looking forward to a review on this for sure.
 
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Originally posted by: rbV5
I think it could be very competitive for driving a HTPC. I'll be looking forward to a review on this for sure.


yeah

i was particularly suprised that they had a machine with some pretty tough games on them, and Hexus commented that they ran with out IQ issues, and at a relatively good pace.

so yeah could be a very good addition to a HTPC if the HDTV capabilities are top stuff. hexus mentioned to them that they should put HDMI out on the card so they might just listen to that
 

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: rbV5
I think it could be very competitive for driving a HTPC. I'll be looking forward to a review on this for sure.


yeah

i was particularly suprised that they had a machine with some pretty tough games on them, and Hexus commented that they ran with out IQ issues, and at a relatively good pace.

so yeah could be a very good addition to a HTPC if the HDTV capabilities are top stuff. hexus mentioned to them that they should put HDMI out on the card so they might just listen to that


If they did, that would be great... But I do not see this happening. Currently nVidia has excellent HDTV support.
 
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Originally posted by: Kensai
How fast is it clocked?


thats awkward part....even though they claimed a faster core than any GPU to date (so we got to be looking over 500) they didnt actually say what it was
 

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When I went through my buy all S3 video cards phase I used a S3 Deltachrome S8 and found it to be a reasonable budget video card. hopefully they can get something decent out because just having nvidia and ati (when they finally release something) is very boring. I know there is xgi as well but outside of Asia they are pretty much invisible.
 

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: rbV5
I think it could be very competitive for driving a HTPC. I'll be looking forward to a review on this for sure.


yeah

i was particularly suprised that they had a machine with some pretty tough games on them, and Hexus commented that they ran with out IQ issues, and at a relatively good pace.

so yeah could be a very good addition to a HTPC if the HDTV capabilities are top stuff. hexus mentioned to them that they should put HDMI out on the card so they might just listen to that


If they did, that would be great... But I do not see this happening. Currently nVidia has excellent HDTV support.

Um, judging from my own personal experiences and the amount of threads at AVSforums, nobody has excellent HDTV support.
 

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What are the limitations of current HDTV output implementations? I've never used VIVO on my card. Off topic but something I've also been wondering for ages: you feed the video card via VIVO, now where is that video routed (which output)?
 

rbV5

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What are the limitations of current HDTV output implementations?

Custom Resolution driver Support is still very YMMV, its OK when it works, PITA when it doesn't. Its not intuative, its inconsistent across different inputs. The terminolgy is different between the manufacturers, there's not enough configuration for advanced users, and documentation is very poor.

Video codec support is also just OK when your use is supported , but poor if its not. Proper video handling is constantly suffering from assorted issues, and HD formats are the worst. Proper hardware acceleration of popular formats is only partially supported, and emerging formats as well as legacy formats take forever to be supported despite programmable processors. Software takes considerable effort on a users part, and lacks advanced configurations for advanced users.

It just shouldn't take a monster rig and an advanced degree to playback, output and encode video.