imported_Prmetime

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Hi everyone. I'm wondering if anyone here has or had a video card from either of these companies. If so, I would appreciate your experiences with these cards. I would also like to know if you liked them or not. Thanks in advance for your replies.

 

Stumps

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ummm I have plenty of S3 cards (Trio 3D/2X, Virge DX, Savage 4 and Savage 2000) they are pretty good as a 2D cards, and while the Savage 4 and Savage 2000 are the only one's capable of doing any sort of 3D they are pretty ordinary.

The Savage 4 is similar to the Old Nvidia TNT or 3DFX Voodoo 2 in performance and the 2000 is similar to a GF256/GF2MX.

they Savage 2000 is reasonably good on a slower platform(like a k6-2/3 or P2/3) but as with all S3 products the drivers suck donkey balls....BIG TIME.

most later S3 products are fairly lacklustre in performance compared to similar NV or ATI products.

XGI just should be avoided like the plague....if you only have the choice between S3 or XGI go for the S3 they are ten times better...but both should be avoided these days.
 

nemesismk2

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I have used everything from a S3 Trio, Virge,Savage3D, Savage4, Savage 2000 and a Deltachrome S8. The drivers were pretty bad with everything upto the Savage 2000 but I found the drivers for the Deltachrome to be problem free.
 

Schadenfroh

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Ahh, I used the S3Trio 64 back in the day, it was a good 2d card, as was the ViRGE. But, the virge has to be the worst 3d card made....... ever.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Ahh, I used the S3Trio 64 back in the day, it was a good 2d card, as was the ViRGE. But, the virge has to be the worst 3d card made....... ever.
Them are fightin' words.:p
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Ahh, I used the S3Trio 64 back in the day, it was a good 2d card, as was the ViRGE. But, the virge has to be the worst 3d card made....... ever.
Them are fightin' words.:p

Oh my..........:Q

I thought you were my cousin's problem now..... I mean... I put you inside that old Gateway machine.
 

Avalon

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I used an XGI V3 for a while as an experiment. It had early drivers back when I had it, so I had some rendering problems with a couple games (Doom 3). Not that it mattered, the card didn't have enough 3D power to run that game satisfactorily anyway.

I did have it running HL2, which was neat :)

2D quality was actually quite good, on par with ATI cards and good Nvidia cards I've used. Output a video to my TV with Svideo, and that worked fine as well.

It was a nice card for $40, but you can get other cards for that price that can do the same thing, and will have better support since XGI sold off its desktop graphics division a while ago, so I don't know how much longer support will last.
 

imported_Prmetime

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Ha anyone tried the newer Chrome series from S3? Inparticular the Chrome 27? The reviews I have read don't show a lot of promise against even the bottom offerings from ATI (x1300) and nVidia (Geforce 7300) though that may be a driver issue. It sounded like the drivers were constanting getting better which sounds like the biggest downfall to any competitor to the extabled manufactuers.
 

Peter

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I'd love to ... particularly since neither ATi nor NVidia are currently offering PCIE cards with /really/ low power consumption. However, S3 cards are completely unavailable here in Germany.

S3 have a strong leg to stand on, supplying the graphics cores to the chipsets of their mother company, VIA.

XGI on the other hand seem to have spun a bit too far off SiS ... and they appear to have given up on getting a foot into the desktop or notebook market. They have some success on server boards (e.g. Tyan) where simple-as-can-be 2D-only VGA chips are sought.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Ahh, I used the S3Trio 64 back in the day, it was a good 2d card, as was the ViRGE. But, the virge has to be the worst 3d card made....... ever.
Them are fightin' words.:p

Oh my..........:Q

I thought you were my cousin's problem now..... I mean... I put you inside that old Gateway machine.

:laugh:
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Ahh, I used the S3Trio 64 back in the day, it was a good 2d card, as was the ViRGE. But, the virge has to be the worst 3d card made....... ever.
Them are fightin' words.:p

Oh my..........:Q

I thought you were my cousin's problem now..... I mean... I put you inside that old Gateway machine.
I come back from the depths of hell when you least expect it. You can't destroy evil, you can only stop it for a time.:lips: