S1156 platform launches sept 8th

[faxon]

So I just finished a video confrence with intel and gigabyte, it's official. The nda lifts 5 days from now. Frys just got boards from msi, intel, and gigabyte today, with evga Asus and biostar coming tomorrow.

 

[Shmee]

cool. I guess. What do you expect for prices on the better evga and gigabyte boards?

 

[Jumpem]

Hopefully some of the reviews focus on s1366 + i7 920 versus s1156 + i7 860.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Good to hear.

 

[faxon]

Originally posted by: Shmee
cool. I guess. What do you expect for prices on the better evga and gigabyte boards?

same as p45 based boards are now. Starting at $130 on up to $250 for say the evga p55 ftw.

 

[taltamir]

is anyone making boards with a SINGLE video card slot? i don't want multiple...

 

[faxon]

Lol not that I have seen so far. Between hardware cannuks and anands mobo lineups, and the frys demos in store, I haven't seen a single board yet with 1 pci-e x16 physical slot. It is because of nvidias physix certification requiring an x4 electric slot that can take a standard gfx card. Since all the manufacturers want to support the latest tech, and the lanes are there, I don't think we will ne seeing any boards without 2 slots

 

[RussianSensation]

Isn't Intel's brand new architecture, Sandy Bridge, not out at the end of next year?

How long lived is 1156 going to be in light of that?

 

[alyarb]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Isn't Intel's brand new architecture, Sandy Bridge, not out at the end of next year?

How long lived is 1156 going to be in light of that?

they want to extend the life of nehalem and it's obvious even in 2009 that they should. 45nm put them so far ahead of AMD that the tick-tock is starting to tick too fast. 32nm will take a lot of silicon dioxide out of AMD's process, however, probably as much as intel's seeing as how they're using IBM's hafnium dielectric. might get them back in the race especially if intel delays sandy. if sandy bridge comes out on schedule that would mean only a ~1 year life cycle for westmere.

 

[geokilla]

Originally posted by: faxon
Lol not that I have seen so far. Between hardware cannuks and anands mobo lineups, and the frys demos in store, I haven't seen a single board yet with 1 pci-e x16 physical slot. It is because of nvidias physix certification requiring an x4 electric slot that can take a standard gfx card. Since all the manufacturers want to support the latest tech, and the lanes are there, I don't think we will ne seeing any boards without 2 slots

You talking bout those previews? And yea, I don't think motherboard makers are going to make a mobo with just one PCI-E slot. Look at the current LGA775 motherboard lineup. I believe most, if not all have more than one PCI-E slot.

Btw, it seems that some stores up here already have them for sale. I shall check it out today at my Canada Computers.

 

[Shmee]

$250!!! I spent barely more than that on my UD5! So much for saving money compared to socket 1366

 

[faxon]

yea dude but that $250 gets you a classified equivalent. thats like a $200 savings if you want classified level board performance but dont want to put out $400-$450 for the X58. we already have the MSI P55-GD80 at frys on demo, hanging on the wall. for $160ish you get a hell of a board feature wise, build quality out the wazoo (the board is manufactured by foxconn, all the accessories that came with it were branded with foxconn's logo LOL), and if im not mistaken, the hydra-100 chip.

http://www.brightsideofnews.co...-bang-motherboard.aspx

http://www.iopanel.net/forum/thread31404.html

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: faxon
Lol not that I have seen so far. Between hardware cannuks and anands mobo lineups, and the frys demos in store, I haven't seen a single board yet with 1 pci-e x16 physical slot. It is because of nvidias physix certification requiring an x4 electric slot that can take a standard gfx card. Since all the manufacturers want to support the latest tech, and the lanes are there, I don't think we will ne seeing any boards without 2 slots

you mean they are also all paying nvidia its stupid ransom, of lump sum and 5$ per board? dammit. I don't want to pay nvidia 5$ per board for Fing SLI

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: faxon
yea dude but that $250 gets you a classified equivalent. thats like a $200 savings if you want classified level board performance but dont want to put out $400-$450 for the X58. we already have the MSI P55-GD80 at frys on demo, hanging on the wall. for $160ish you get a hell of a board feature wise, build quality out the wazoo (the board is manufactured by foxconn, all the accessories that came with it were branded with foxconn's logo LOL), and if im not mistaken, the hydra-100 chip.

http://www.brightsideofnews.co...-bang-motherboard.aspx

http://www.iopanel.net/forum/thread31404.html

ok this is interesting... this will make much more sense why they are all dual slotters if they have the hydra chip

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: faxon
Lol not that I have seen so far. Between hardware cannuks and anands mobo lineups, and the frys demos in store, I haven't seen a single board yet with 1 pci-e x16 physical slot. It is because of nvidias physix certification requiring an x4 electric slot that can take a standard gfx card. Since all the manufacturers want to support the latest tech, and the lanes are there, I don't think we will ne seeing any boards without 2 slots

you mean they are also all paying nvidia its stupid ransom, of lump sum and 5$ per board? dammit. I don't want to pay nvidia 5$ per board for Fing SLI

It's crap like this licensing scam that NV pulls that makes me all the more pleased that it is Intel they've found themselves wrestling with. Intel will just pound them into the ground, given time, as they did with every other Intel-mobo chipset manufacturer. If NV was a little less deserving of the pounding I'd find myself rooting for them as an underdog like I root for AMD...but NV has done themselves no favors when it comes to generating the warm-fuzzies from customers.

 

[faxon]

btw i should mention i was mistaken, we dont have the GD-80 in stores, we have the GD-65. im not sure if the GD-80 is going to be ready at launch yet even though, i havent seen much on it yet at least other than those 2 links i showed earlier.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: faxon
Lol not that I have seen so far. Between hardware cannuks and anands mobo lineups, and the frys demos in store, I haven't seen a single board yet with 1 pci-e x16 physical slot. It is because of nvidias physix certification requiring an x4 electric slot that can take a standard gfx card. Since all the manufacturers want to support the latest tech, and the lanes are there, I don't think we will ne seeing any boards without 2 slots

you mean they are also all paying nvidia its stupid ransom, of lump sum and 5$ per board? dammit. I don't want to pay nvidia 5$ per board for Fing SLI

It gets more complex than that. There's a flat per-manufacturer fee, but there's also a per-board fee, but only for SLI. So if you buy any board from a manufacturer that supports SLI, then you're effectively paying for part of their SLI license - this includes PhysX Ready boards, which don't have a per-board fee but require that the manufacturer be an SLI licensee. And of course there's the per-board SLI fee that you mentioned.

 

[taltamir]

Notice that I DID mention the "lump sum"

 

[nyker96]

I think ecost.com already start selling P55 boards, they are like 130-250 or so depend on feature sets.

 

[taltamir]

http://search.ecost.com/?i=1&q...&u2=x3&x3=MOTHERBOARDS
they have three boards: 147$, 207$, and 298$

Too high for my taste...

 

[alyarb]

not a lot of mosfet cooling on that p7p55d. i think $140 would be the max i would pay for a good overclocking board. my EP45-UD3R was $120 and is a pleasure to work with. that should be the sweet spot for P55 as well.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: alyarb
not a lot of mosfet cooling on that p7p55d. i think $140 would be the max i would pay for a good overclocking board. my EP45-UD3R was $120 and is a pleasure to work with. that should be the sweet spot for P55 as well.

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Also saw Core i5 750 for $179 and Core i7 860 for $229 at Microcenter today.

 

[bfdd]

I was stoked for the i5 till I saw the prices and the Microcenter in Tustin, CA got i7 920s back in stock for 200. So I picked up the 920 yesterday, figuring out what motherboard I'm going to go with though.

 

[taltamir]

mmm... I am almost tempted to make a road trip getting to a microcenter to buy an s1366 i920 @ microcenter. I know i ragged the hell out of it but 100$ off is a really sweet deal AND the pricing on the p55 are way higher than promised thus far.

WHOA HOA! Look at that... I was just looking over at microcenter and found this gem:
http://www.microcenter.com/sin...tml?product_id=0317952
MSI P55-CD53 Socket 1156 P55 ATX Motherboard
100$ - 20$ MIR.

it is even a single slot video non sli non xfire board.

so that is 80 to 90$ less (or 60 to 70 if ignoring the rebate) on mobo, 30$ more on CPU for the i7-860. Which is 2.8 (@3.46ghz turbo boost) vs 2.66 (2.8 ghz turbo boost) of the old i7, should have better single GPU performance, and should have a much more generous turbo boost.

oh, and cheaper ram

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Hopefully some of the reviews focus on s1366 + i7 920 versus s1156 + i7 860.

Indeed, unless S1156 is cheaper and/or faster than S1366 solutions, what's the point?

For me S1156 makes the most sense with Clarkdale on mini-ITX, IGP and low TDP should make a blazing SFF PC.