I know sandy bridge is coming soon, which will require a new MB/CPU combo. Thing is, I really like my 1156 board. Anyone know if intel is gonna throw us a bone and release 1 or 2 new SKUs for ye olde s1156?
s1156 already obsolete? Anything else new coming???
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VirtualLarry
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If the rumors are true, and you've already got an overclocked I7 for socket 1156, than there will be no upgrade without a new motherboard. There won't be any 32nm quad cores, no new architecture, possibly a few simple speed bumps on the current processors.
well, you gonna love this one, the 1155s are coming to replace the 1156s and then my guess is intel will intro the 1154s etc. Doing their best to make you buy new boards, one pin at a time ...
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edplayer
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why would it matter when you can just overclock what you have? A 32nm quad would be something lots of people would be willing to upgrade to but I don't think they plan on one.
ehume
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I plan to upgrade to an 875k, but that's just to have fun - albeit expensive fun.
But really, in a year or two, would you really upgrade to a new cpu on your staid old board? For one thing, the chipset needs to gain native USB3 and SATA3, something we won't see until 2011 or 2012. Will you really want to stick with your old mb without that?
But really, in a year or two, would you really upgrade to a new cpu on your staid old board? For one thing, the chipset needs to gain native USB3 and SATA3, something we won't see until 2011 or 2012. Will you really want to stick with your old mb without that?
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considering how long i keep my cpu's, i think 1366 was good enough for me.
in that 1 platform time, ive had 4 boards, and probably 8 i7 cpu's.
Serious note you guys, you still cant go wrong with 1366.
IF you need a machine now, and you like overclocking, you cant go wrong with 1366.
If you really want to go green, and your a very limited overclocker, then wait for 1155.
If you have a lot of money to burn, and you want to join the L33T people on this fourm *sarcasm* wait for socket 2011.
biostud
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All sockets become obsolote when next generation of CPU's (new core design) arrive.
edplayer
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Yup, I liked how 775 lasted through 2 cycles at least (tic/tock?) P4 Netburst + Core2. S1156 only seemed to last through 1 tic. (Might be mistaken but I thought core i3/5/7 have just had one generation. )
evolucion8
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I don't like Intel's behavior of creating so much sockets which last so very little.
Socket 478 received 3 generations of Pentium 4 which had a small segmentation when DDR got released later and the 800MHz FSB.
Socket 775 had the Pentium 4, Pentium D and Core 2 Duo with two generations of the latter that were Conroe and Penryn, with a small segmentation when the 965 chipset was released to support Conroe. (The 915/925 was a Pentium 4 only chipset). Socket 1156 was released just recently, was wrong with Intel?
There's nothing wrong with Intel, at least if you think it's alright to have 4 sockets on the market. 775 may be EOL, but it's still going strong in the budget sector. I can't wait till socket 2011 comes out, and there will be I7 processors on 4 different sockets. lmao
The original plan for Sandy Bridge was to keep the same sockets. However, for some reason, they decided that wouldn't work (or work at an acceptable level), so Intel reworked the interface, then tweaked it to make sure you can't accidentally fry everything if you paired the wrong processor. That's why this generation seems so short.
As for the socket split, Intel has been doing it for years, back to the Pentium Pro. However, AMD was the first to split the consumer market by socket with the K8.
If you want longevity, AMD has better odds than Intel. Chances are AM3 upgrades will be available for the next year or two, though you are just as likely to get AM3+ or similar revision at the same time. We know Thuban works in AM3 and DDR4 is still a long ways off (even ignoring the possibility of adding RAM to the CPU package).
For office work, a P4 is still viable, so I wouldn't worry about performance with office apps 5 years from now.
For games or work, simply upgrade as often as needed. Users upgrade video when framerates start hitting unacceptable levels. No reason not to do the same with everything else.
I used to be one of those people who based purchase decisions on part longevity. Always wanted mobos with the latest tech, as many of whatever the newest slot was, latest memory spec even if it provided worse performance, etc. However, a while ago, I realized that I either require an upgrade every few months, or every few years unless something breaks. That means I'm either keeping up with advances or building a completely new system.
In other words, PC's are past the point where you don't worry about longevity. You're either replacing parts often enough to simply go along with any changes down the pipe or you're building from scratch because upgrade parts for obsolete interfaces cost too much for too little benefit.
As for the socket split, Intel has been doing it for years, back to the Pentium Pro. However, AMD was the first to split the consumer market by socket with the K8.
If you want longevity, AMD has better odds than Intel. Chances are AM3 upgrades will be available for the next year or two, though you are just as likely to get AM3+ or similar revision at the same time. We know Thuban works in AM3 and DDR4 is still a long ways off (even ignoring the possibility of adding RAM to the CPU package).
For office work, a P4 is still viable, so I wouldn't worry about performance with office apps 5 years from now.
For games or work, simply upgrade as often as needed. Users upgrade video when framerates start hitting unacceptable levels. No reason not to do the same with everything else.
I used to be one of those people who based purchase decisions on part longevity. Always wanted mobos with the latest tech, as many of whatever the newest slot was, latest memory spec even if it provided worse performance, etc. However, a while ago, I realized that I either require an upgrade every few months, or every few years unless something breaks. That means I'm either keeping up with advances or building a completely new system.
In other words, PC's are past the point where you don't worry about longevity. You're either replacing parts often enough to simply go along with any changes down the pipe or you're building from scratch because upgrade parts for obsolete interfaces cost too much for too little benefit.
RussianSensation
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When you get 1155, we will skip it and get the next socket by AMD or Intel in 2012 or whatever. See how that works?
SniperWulf, if you already have 1156, it may not make sense to upgrade to 1155. Get a new SSD or GPU instead.
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Kantastic
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wait... so when the world ends, thats when amd catches up?
Brilliant.. no more world, no more intel, AMD WIN!
Sort of, but they dropped the tick for the higher end of the socket and only introduced 32nm chips in the low end/value market.
biostud
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How long should you be able to use the same socket with CPU's to become "obsolete before released"?
If you change CPU every 3 or 4 year then the chances are that so much new technology (next gen. memory, storageinterface, PCIe etc.) is available that changing the mboard is a good idea anyways.
When my s1156 CPU becomes "obsolete", DDR4, USB3.0, PCIe 3.0, SATA-600 will be standards and since my mboard supoorts neither I'm going to change the mboard along with the CPU.
While the AM2 boards support AM3 6-core CPU's, it only supports DDR2 and the HT speed will be 2000MT/s compared to 5200MT/s for AM3.
Yea, Intel bastardized their 32 nm line a bit.
There's the low-end stuff with integrated IGP (but the IGP is still 45 nm). And then there's the 6-core monsters, but they're only for socket 1366.
For some reason there were never any 32 nm quadcores, neither for socket 1366 nor for 1156. They cheated us out of some potentially great upgrades.
StrangerGuy
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If I had a Q6600 @ 3.6GHz I would have skipped all the 45nm Penryns and 45/32nm Nehalems. And that debutted in...2006?
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