S.F. mayor sees wireless service as basic right

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who became internationally known for his campaign a year ago to legalize gay marriage, said on Monday he considered wireless Internet access a fundamental right of all citizens.

Newsom told a news conference that he was bracing for a battle with telephone and cable interests, along with state and U.S. regulators, whom he said were looking to derail a campaign by cities to offer free or low-cost municipal Wi-Fi services.

Wi-Fi is a short-range wireless technology that is now built into most laptop computers and is increasingly offered on handheld computers and certain mobile phones. Local officials are mulling plans to blanket every nook and cranny of this hilly city of 750,000 residents with Wi-Fi access.

"This is inevitable -- Wi-Fi. It is long overdue," Newsom told a news conference at San Francisco's City Hall. "It is to me a fundamental right to have access universally to information," he said.

Officials said 24 proposals had been turned into the city to deliver wireless Internet services, ranging from Web search company Google Inc., Cingular, the No. 1 U.S. wireless carrier, to Internet service provider EarthLink Inc..

Newsom told reporters he hoped to streamline the final bidding process and choose a contractor to build the city-wide wireless service in as little as five to six months.

But a series of public hearings and city approval processes, as well as potential lawsuits by opponents, could drag the process out far longer, he cautioned.

Making wireless access affordable to the entire population of San Francisco was a vital step to differentiating the city in order to make it more economically competitive on a state, national and global level, Newsom said.

But the mayor also singled out the power of Wi-Fi as an alternative network to provide emergency information to all citizens in the event a natural disaster such as an earthquake were to strike the city and knock out other communications.

"CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE"

Wireless access can be seen a basic right that should be available not just to business professionals but also lower-income citizens. "This is a civil rights issue as much as anything else," Newsom said.

The mayor said he had no exact figures on how much it would cost to build a wireless umbrella to cover the entire city, but cited general estimates that have ranged from $8 million to $16 million for antennas and other gear.

"My intent is to have the taxpayers pay little or nothing," Newsom said of the municipal wireless project.

Chris Vein, director of telecommunication and information services for the City of San Francisco declined to comment on whether any of the participants planned to use an alternative technology known as WiMAX, which provides higher speed wireless service using fewer antennas.

One company, which Vein declined to name, has proposed an advertising-supported plan for free wireless access, he said. That company appeared to be Google. A Google spokesman on Friday had confirmed that its Wi-Fi access proposal could be funded through online advertising.

City officials said other companies submitting business proposals for the municipal wireless access project included a mix of network equipment suppliers, wireless service providers, local start-ups and community wireless projects.

Potential bidders include Sweden's Ericsson, Motorola Inc., Canada's Nortel, Extreme Networks Inc. and two fixed wireless suppliers, Israel's Alvarion Ltd. and WiLine of San Francisco.

Other names on the list were GigaBeam, Symbol Technologies Inc., SkyTel, the old pager unit of MCI, which is due to be acquired by phone company Verizon Communications.



Only in California I suppose. I wonder if I move there, do I get a right to free pizza and an Infiniti G35?
 

Genx87

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They are doing this in Minneapolis also.

The funny thing is anybody with a wireless card should be able to find some idiot who has an open connection and hop on.

I am out in the suburbs and find 2-3 around my house. Go downtown and the list is endless.

 

BarneyFife

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They are doing this in my county in Michigan which is run by Republicans. Nothing wrong with providing free internet. Times are changing and we need to move forward.
 

Zebo

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Only in California I suppose. I wonder if I move there, do I get a right to free pizza and an Infiniti G35?

Already packing the U-Haul huh? I think I'm coming to relise how you people think - If the benefit is there you'll be first in line wether you need it or not. Therefore you think everyone would and it will fall apart. I'm glad most american don't have this opportunistic mentality.
 
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Well this makes sense for "lower-income citizens."

There's nothing more aggravating than pushing your shopping cart down the street and not a hotspot in sight. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: zendari

Only in California I suppose. I wonder if I move there, do I get a right to free pizza and an Infiniti G35?

And Philadelphia PA and many other places.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Only in California I suppose. I wonder if I move there, do I get a right to free pizza and an Infiniti G35?

Already packing the U-Haul huh? I think I'm coming to relise how you people think - If the benefit is there you'll be first in line wether you need it or not. Therefore you think everyone would and it will fall apart. I'm glad most american don't have this opportunistic mentality.

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
They are doing this in my county in Michigan which is run by Republicans. Nothing wrong with providing free internet. Times are changing and we need to move forward.

Correction: Republicans don't want this country moving forward, only themselves.
 

Zebo

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SF really not that rich because property taxes are the lowest in the nation being capped at 1% of day purshased appraised value.
 

techs

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Yeah, I guess competing with foreign countries which are doing this or in the process of doing this shouldn't mean anything.
After all we are only years behind other countries in internet access speeds.
And of course we aren't losing any jobs to these countries.
NOT.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess competing with foreign countries which are doing this or in the process of doing this shouldn't mean anything.
After all we are only years behind other countries in internet access speeds.
And of course we aren't losing any jobs to these countries.
NOT.

We are already losing our car companies who can do business cheaper in Japan. germany, canada due to state subsided national healthcare and pensions. What's next?

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess competing with foreign countries which are doing this or in the process of doing this shouldn't mean anything.
After all we are only years behind other countries in internet access speeds.
And of course we aren't losing any jobs to these countries.
NOT.

We are already losing our car companies who can do business cheaper in Japan. germany, canada due to state subsided national healthcare and pensions.

What's next?

No Internet in the U.S.

10-7-2005 U.S. Network feud leads to Net blackout
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zebo
SF really not that rich because property taxes are the lowest in the nation being capped at 1% of day purshased appraised value.

Every time I read this my brain or whatever passes for one goes into convulsions. What the heck does it mean?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess competing with foreign countries which are doing this or in the process of doing this shouldn't mean anything.
After all we are only years behind other countries in internet access speeds.
And of course we aren't losing any jobs to these countries.
NOT.

We are already losing our car companies who can do business cheaper in Japan. germany, canada due to state subsided national healthcare and pensions.

What's next?

No Internet in the U.S.

10-7-2005 U.S. Network feud leads to Net blackout

Welcome to third world America.

 

ntdz

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Well, the SF Major also thinks it's a right for city employees to have sex change operations. What's next, it's the right of the city hotels to provide housing for the thousands of homeless there?
 

digiram

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Well, the SF Major also thinks it's a right for city employees to have sex change operations. What's next, it's the right of the city hotels to provide housing for the thousands of homeless there?

Sure, why not?

*writes resignation letter, and purchases one way ticket to SF" :D