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[S/A]Qualcomm announces 10nm Centriq 2400 ARM server SoC

dark zero

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Is based on A73 or Kryo 200? If is the latter, expect to have decent ST performance. A72 was on the levels of Core 2 tier.
 

witeken

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Woah, 2x as many cores as Intel's Xeon and a "superior" process node. 2nd half of '17, so it will compete vs. Purley.
 

Phynaz

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Maybe Qualcomm can do what AMD and Broadcom couldn't.

Or they are just grasping at any market to ensure their survival.

Only time will tell :)
 

NTMBK

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Maybe Qualcomm can do what AMD and Broadcom couldn't.

Or they are just grasping at any market to ensure their survival.

Only time will tell :)
They've already done what Intel couldn't...
 
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Woah, 2x as many cores as Intel's Xeon and a "superior" process node. 2nd half of '17, so it will compete vs. Purley.
Not all cores are created equal, though. Cavium's ThunderX2 will have 48 cores, too, on 14LPP, but that doesn't say much.
 

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Maybe Qualcomm can do what AMD and Broadcom couldn't.
No-one sane thinks the second chip is going to be a home run in the server market. The market cares about the "little things", and it will take a few chip generations of development until the CPUs can be competent. A lot of the entrants in the ARM server segment can be dismissed simply because they are only funded to ship one or two attempts, and once those fail, and they will fail, they will go belly-up.

Qualcomm is different in the way that Qualcomm is huge (10x AMD, 60% of Intel), and their own servers are a significant market. If they start using their own chips, they can possibly pay for the necessary R&D for the few generations that are needed without no-one in the organization batting an eye.

My prediction is that this chip won't be anything special, but that if QC keeps at it, they are entirely capable of becoming a player in this space.
 
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Ajay

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Maybe Qualcomm can do what AMD and Broadcom couldn't.

Or they are just grasping at any market to ensure their survival.

Only time will tell :)
Seriously, Qualcomm isn't in the two phones that make all the profit in mobile (iPhone and top of line Samsungs). How do they survive?
 

NTMBK

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Seriously, Qualcomm isn't in the two phones that make all the profit in mobile (iPhone and top of line Samsungs). How do they survive?
Qualcomm most definitely is in the iPhone, they make the modem in most models.
 

daxzy

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Seriously, Qualcomm isn't in the two phones that make all the profit in mobile (iPhone and top of line Samsungs). How do they survive?
The phone ODM's are the ones losing money, not the makers of the silicon.

Announcement was very weak. All marketing fluff absent any technical details.
 

Ajay

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Qualcomm most definitely is in the iPhone, they make the modem in most models.
Good point. But their SoC aren't (unless Samsung is still using them for some markets).
 

Ajay

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The phone ODM's are the ones losing money, not the makers of the silicon.

Announcement was very weak. All marketing fluff absent any technical details.
Well, the only real ODM in phones is Samsung - they are having a bad year (made worse by the Note7 fiasco).
 
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