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S.686 - RESTRICT Act - Patriot Act 2.0

KMFJD

KMFJD

Lifer

You've probably seen/heard about the Senate hearings that they are having in regards to Tik Tok, it's actually about trying to ram through this terrible legislation

It is a huge sweeping platform for controlling access to information and organization. There are provisions in there for things like ring doorbells. Banking. Your facebook messages. Your text messages. Your phone calls. Your email. Reddit. Union organization, Your home network, your internet activity in general, content delivery so Youtube, Netflix, Prime Video, Hulu... all of that.

Section 5 Considerations if you want to look at that, even in brief.
(3) any software, hardware, or any other product or service integral to data hosting or computing service that uses, processes, or retains, or is expected to use, process, or retain, sensitive personal data with respect to greater than 1,000,000 persons in the United States at any point during the year period preceding the date on which the covered transaction is referred to the Secretary for review or the Secretary initiates review of the covered transaction, including-
(A) internet hosting services;

(B) cloud-based or distributed computing and data storage;

(C) machine learning, predictive analytics, and data science products and services, including those involving the provision of services to assist a party utilize, manage, or maintain open-source software;

(D) managed services; and

(E) content delivery services;

And the penalties. Oh you used a VPN to organize a protest, or you want to research how Swedens government works without traversing the sanitized content deemed acceptable for you.

Section 11 Penalties.

(c) Criminal Penalties.-
(1) IN GENERAL.-A person who willfully commits, willfully attempts to commit, or willfully conspires to commit, or aids or abets in the commission of an unlawful act described in subsection (a) shall, upon conviction, be fined not more than $1,000,000, or if a natural person, may be imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both.

land of the free? I thought there was a right to privacy?
 
KMFJD said:
land of the free? I thought there was a right to privacy?
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From what I can tell, this is about granting the Government access to review widespread pieces of hardware and software that may be at risk of being owned by a foreign adversary. Such as Russia or China. To ensure that such enemies do not control our hardware, software, or information.
 
Jaskalas said:
From what I can tell, this is about granting the Government access to review widespread pieces of hardware and software that may be at risk of being owned by a foreign adversary. Such as Russia or China. To ensure that such enemies do not control our hardware, software, or information.
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And do you think the use of it will stop there? That'd be naïve thinking IMHO.

This is more Big Brother legislation that would allow them to monitor our own citizens under the guise of, 'protection from Russia/China'. They can pass it off as national security for the sake of the little guy, but we should know better by now how laws such as these get utilized.
 
www.eff.org

Government Hasn't Justified a TikTok Ban

Freedom of speech and association include the right to choose one’s communication technologies. Politicians shouldn’t be able to tell you what to say, where to say it, or who to say it to.So we are troubled by growing demands in the United States for restrictions on TikTok, a technology that many...
www.eff.org www.eff.org

another good article on this terrible bill
 
I seem to recall the Patriot act was used to authorize all kinds of unpatriotic shit, and there is zero evidence the government has become smarter or more beneficial since then.
So, I think I need to start writing some letters to my guy. And maybe encourage others to look into it and also write letters.
 
I firmly believe something has to be done about TikTok.
That being said, this legislation is NOT what I believe needs to be done.

Leave it to legislatures to take a good idea and ruin it.
 
Homerboy said:
I firmly believe something has to be done about TikTok.
That being said, this legislation is NOT what I believe needs to be done.

Leave it to legislatures to take a good idea and ruin it.
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Other than the CCP having access to the data glommed by the app, what are they doing different from, Facebook, Twitter, the operating system you are using, yes I'm looking at you Microsoft.
 
hal2kilo said:
Other than the CCP having access to the data glommed by the app, what are they doing different from, Facebook, Twitter, the operating system you are using, yes I'm looking at you Microsoft.
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Well the CCP is an "enemy" of the United States and not a US Based company. As you said, they have access to all the data they can glom, and they have control of the algorithm. They can show more videos to impressionable people (youth) that talks about how horrible XYZ president or person is. The can slowly ferment distrust or dissent by showing more/specific videos emphasizing that - or whatever they want. You have to understand and appreciate how social media can and does affect and warp thoughts and patterns. And yes, FB etc have that same power, but you'd think they don't have much interest in toppling the US Gov't as a whole.

Chinese have been playing the long game since WWII. This is no different.
 
shortylickens said:
The US Based companies are enemies of the state.
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I'd agree there's a multitude of reasons to consider them as such, with one of the biggest being data collection. But if they allow US government entities/agencies access to that data...of course the gov would want to allow that to continue. It's a trove for them. They've never had another resource where the citizenry willingly throw personal info at them.
 
hal2kilo said:
Other than the CCP having access to the data glommed by the app, what are they doing different from, Facebook, Twitter, the operating system you are using, yes I'm looking at you Microsoft.
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All Chinese based companies are required to do anything asked of by their government. They are an extension of the country they exist live in. TikTok will not only provide data about who consumes what information, but the CCP also dictates what that content is and who it gets delivered to. This is not some movie or television plot. It happens. Every day. Chine is not our friend. (Neither is Russia for you dumbasses who think otherwise).

Remember how well the Russians leverage Facebook in 2016? TikTok may be an app "for kids" right now, but so was Facebook. Don't be a dismissive fool.
 
compcons said:
All Chinese based companies are required to do anything asked of by their government. They are an extension of the country they exist live in. TikTok will not only provide data about who consumes what information, but the CCP also dictates what that content is and who it gets delivered to. This is not some movie or television plot. It happens. Every day. Chine is not our friend. (Neither is Russia for you dumbasses who think otherwise).

Remember how well the Russians leverage Facebook in 2016? TikTok may be an app "for kids" right now, but so was Facebook. Don't be a dismissive fool.
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Wow, I feel so much better that's it's only private enterprisers that are fucking with my privacy.
 
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