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Question Ryzen 5 3500X!

Mir96TA

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Since I can't get i3 10100F and Ryzen 3 3300x I decided let me impulse make a decision:rolleyes:
I am going with AMD Ryzen 5 3500X However I can't seems to find much of a information on it.
I know it is in compatible list of CPU on MSi TomaHawk B350 or B450 AORUS PRO WIFI motherboards
According to AliExpress it 6 Core CPU without SMT/Hyperthreading and lower base core and boost speed. Which is yielding to lower CPU TDP 65Watts only.
Other then that is very similar to Ryzen 5 3600X.
However it is not mentioned on AMD website!
Anybody would like to share their thoughts on this ?
 

MalVeauX

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Heya,

I think it's an exclusive (or meant to be) to the Asian market. Lots of products do this.

If you're in the USA, it doesn't make much sense to pay $125+ for a 6 core CPU in my opinion when you can get so much for a touch more cost, yielding 8 threads or 16 threads, etc. But I realize "in stock" is the big issue here really.

Very best,
 

richierich1212

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Since I can't get i3 10100F and Ryzen 3 3300x I decided let me impulse make a decision:rolleyes:
I am going with AMD Ryzen 5 3500X However I can't seems to find much of a information on it.
I know it is in compatible list of CPU on MSi TomaHawk B350 or B450 AORUS PRO WIFI motherboards
According to AliExpress it 6 Core CPU without SMT/Hyperthreading and lower base core and boost speed. Which is yielding to lower CPU TDP 65Watts only.
Other then that is very similar to Ryzen 5 3600X.
However it is not mentioned on AMD website!
Anybody would like to share their thoughts on this ?
It’s tempting to pick this up over the 3600 / 10400 but do not do it. It only has 6cores so it’s pretty much DOA when 2021 is just around the corner.
 

Mir96TA

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Dang it..........
I already did it..........
But lets discuss any way............
I can't seems to get any thing decent for $125.
For some reasons, I have notice newer CPU/GPU is no where to be found.
I am getting this for my son. Who play 98 % games 2 % school (Hi-School)
I know it is useless for me because I do run virtual machines, where sometimes I need 16 vCPU ....
I am going give my son TomaHawk B350 MB, 16 GB, with his 1080 Ti he should be alright
Right now he is struggling with i3-8100 :rolleyes:
 

Mir96TA

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Why only thing is missing Hyperthreading /SMT
Are multithread is that much important in Games ?
BTW I am in Canada
 

UsandThem

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It only has 6cores so it’s pretty much DOA when 2021 is just around the corner.
Depending on a person's PC use of course. A 6 core (12 thread) CPU will be perfectly fine for the vast majority of desktop users out there (including myself). I no longer buy or play demanding AAA games like Microsoft Flight Simulator, or anything that needs moar cores! ;)
 

MalVeauX

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If it's mostly for gaming, then it will be fine. If you look at benchmarks, it's pretty closet to the 3600x in most games. Not enough to fuss over likely.

Very best,
 

blckgrffn

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I had an i3-8100 for my young Daughter and it was on the struggle bus more than I ever thought it would be, given that it was an i5 of the previous gen (essentially).

A drop in Microcenter 9700k took care of that :p

The 8100 is now living the good life as an Untangle router, which it is exceptional at.

I think the 3500x will be viable as long as the multitude of six core i5 Intel CPUs are viable, which is unknown but obviously four cores is deficient today.

I had no idea this CPU existed, thanks for bringing it to my attention :)
 

Mir96TA

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Silly Question.
What are the chances, it is a FAKE inhouse china CPU...... ? (Trump talking)
Like rigging the CPU id stuff and performance of Athlon ?
or Am I getting little paranoia :eek:
 

NTMBK

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Silly Question.
What are the chances, it is a FAKE inhouse china CPU...... ? (Trump talking)
Like rigging the CPU id stuff and performance of Athlon ?
or Am I getting little paranoia :eek:
Why would they fake a midrange processor? If you're going to fake it, make it more profitable.
 

MalVeauX

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Odds are low.

$125 is basically MSRP for this thing.

If it were fake, it would be much cheaper (too good to be true) or it would be a higher profile chip for a good price (also too good to be true).

Also, where's the precedence of fake CPU bait and switching on AMD processors?

Very best,
 

blckgrffn

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Right, I don't think this an eBay special "non branded" GTX 1050ti for $35 bucks that's really some lower end card with weird stuff done to it.

I mean, importing is always a bit of a risk but this seems pretty legit to me.

(You're being paranoid :p )
 

ao_ika_red

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Silly Question.
What are the chances, it is a FAKE inhouse china CPU...... ? (Trump talking)
Like rigging the CPU id stuff and performance of Athlon ?
or Am I getting little paranoia :eek:
It's once released as OEM only CPU, then somebody decided to put retail packaging on it.
Plenty of 3500X stock around SEA market I can say. But initially it's China exclusive.

3500X review by TechSpot.
 

Mir96TA

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Few years lot of Europeans countries were selling rig Intel CPU. After that came with LoGo Genuine intel.
I ordered it,🤦‍♂️ let see.... 🤫
 

richierich1212

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Depending on a person's PC use of course. A 6 core (12 thread) CPU will be perfectly fine for the vast majority of desktop users out there (including myself). I no longer buy or play demanding AAA games like Microsoft Flight Simulator, or anything that needs moar cores! ;)
That's the thing, this CPU only has 6 cores / 6 threads.
 

richierich1212

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That's exactly what I said.

You think 6 core / 12 thread CPUs are "DOA" in 2021. I disagree with that broad proclamation. ;)
What? 3500X only has 6 cores, no additional threads. It’s not a 3600 with 6 cores / 12 threads. If you haven’t noticed I have a 5600X so why would I think a 6 core / 12 thread CPU be dead in 2021?
 

Mir96TA

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That's the thing, this CPU only has 6 cores / 6 threads.
I am using 2700 I still don't it has use full life 2 year.
Its is really true 3500X and only thing is short of is Multithreading and little bit lower base core and boost speed, I think it can easily last 3 years. Zen 2 is very efficient platform.
If I was able to get 3300X for 4 core for $95 and 3500X 6 core for $120, I think it is right price ? No ?:rolleyes:
I am having a trust issue on that CPU, because I never bought any CPU directly from China
I will share my findings, once I get it.
Thanks
 

Iron Woode

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Why only thing is missing Hyperthreading /SMT
Are multithread is that much important in Games ?
BTW I am in Canada
I am also in Canada and I think that cpu will be OK for now.

If he was going to a 450/470 board or 550/570 board I would wait and get a 3600 or a 5600x when in stock.
 

Mopetar

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I think it will be fine, and frankly with the various shortages causing some products (including 4-core APUs) to have the prices jump up considerably, getting this for $125 isn't a bad deal by any means.

AMD's SMT is a little better than Intel's implementation but there are a lot of applications where the lack of 6 additional threads is negligible. If it's 98% gaming, it won't matter. AT just put out an article investigating SMT and it really doesn't matter for gaming: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16261/investigating-performance-of-multithreading-on-zen-3-and-amd-ryzen-5000/3
 
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VirtualLarry

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and frankly with the various shortages causing some products (including 4-core APUs) to have the prices jump up considerably, getting this for $125 isn't a bad deal by any means.
Honestly, that's a GREAT price, and performance shouldn't be TOO far off of a 3600.

Considering that I just paid $229 + $3 for a real 3600 from Newegg (cheapest price that I could find for a Ryzen Zen2 6-core), I would have rather paid $125 for a 3500X, all things considered, although I no longer order CPUs from China-sellers (if I ever did).
 

Mopetar

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I think it costs more to buy one of the Zen 2 quad-cores with SMT since those have generally seen the prices go up over the past few months, so you're getting 2 more physical cores for a lower cost. It's actually a pretty good deal after checking prices on Newegg and other sites.
 

guidryp

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Why only thing is missing Hyperthreading /SMT
Are multithread is that much important in Games ?
BTW I am in Canada
I would factor what the full cost of, international shipping and import duties, etc... Ever use Aliexpress before?

Vs just buying a 3600 or i3-10100 in country with free shipping, and much less hassle if something goes wrong.
 
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