Ryan tells the herd Obamacare is bad and needs a repeal..yet still wants it's money.

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" Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan is barnstorming the country, promising to repeal every provision of the Affordable Care Act if the Romney-Ryan ticket is elected. But a letter he wrote to the Obama administration may undermine this message.

On December 10, 2010, Ryan penned a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services to recommend a grant application for the Kenosha Community Health Center, Inc to develop a new facility in Racine, Wisconsin, an area within Ryan's district. "The proposed new facility, the Belle City Neighborhood Health Center, will serve both the preventative and comprehensive primary healthcare needs of thousands of new patients of all ages who are currently without healthcare," Ryan wrote.

The grant Ryan requested was funded directly by the Affordable Care Act, better known simply as healthcare reform or Obamacare."

Read more and view his request: http://www.thenation.com/blog/169757/exclusive-paul-ryan-quietly-requested-obamacare-cash

From the perspective of a Democrat, the Choice of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan could not get any better! It's great running against people who not only have laid the basis for Obamacare...let alone ones who are completely willing to take the legislation's money when it's waived in their face. This is turning out to be just like the stimulus money - he tells the public it's ruining the nation, and yet he has no problems asking for the money anyway.
 
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spidey07

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So a politican is asking for grant money for his state or district, what's new or revealing about this? That's what they do. I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with obamacare.
 

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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FTFY
 
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spidey07

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OP needs to have his title modified. No proof or substance this grant had anything to do with obamacare. Title is a bald faced LIE.
 

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OP needs to have his title modified. No proof or substance this grant had anything to do with obamacare. Title is a bald faced LIE.

Despite Ryan’s quiet support for an Affordable Care Act clinic grant in his district, the Wisconsin congressman’s promise to repeal Obamacare would undermine the law’s five-year plan to rapidly grow the health clinic system in America by withdrawing the necessary funds

Proof is right there. If obamacare is repealed, the money is gone.
 

spidey07

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Proof is right there. If obamacare is repealed, the money is gone.

There is already grant money outside of obamacare for these clinics. There is zero proof that it has anything to do with obamacare. Title must be edited to remove false claim and outright LIE.
 

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There is already grant money outside of obamacare for these clinics. There is zero proof that it has anything to do with obamacare. Title must be edited to remove false claim and outright LIE.

Wow - must have really hit a cord, eh? I didn't realize it was possible to pull so much anger out of such an unwavering zealot...
 

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spidey is still in denial about the funds???

HHS awards Affordable Care Act funds to expand access to health care
http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/08/20110809a.html

HHS awards Affordable Care Act funds to expand access to health care

Grants will support new health centers in 67 communities, serve additional 286,000 patients

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius today announced awards of $28.8 million to 67 community health center programs across the country. These funds, made available by the Affordable Care Act, will help to establish new health service delivery sites to care for an additional 286,000 patients. Community health centers work to improve the health of the nation's underserved communities and vulnerable populations by ensuring access to comprehensive, culturally competent, quality primary health care services.

As community-based and patient-directed organizations, health centers are well positioned to be responsive to the specific health care needs of their community. These grants will support new access points which are new full-time service delivery sites that provide comprehensive primary and preventive health care services. By maximizing the availability, access, and continuity of primary care services to the nation's neediest populations, these sites will play a critical role in improving the health care status of medically underserved and vulnerable populations and decreasing health disparities throughout the United States.

“We are making an investment in the health of people and the health of our communities,” said Secretary Sebelius. “These awards demonstrate a commitment to improving and expanding access to quality health care for local communities. We are removing barriers that stand in the way of affordable and accessible primary health services.”

Eligible applicants included public or nonprofit private entities, including tribal, faith-based and community-based organizations who meet health center funding requirements. Current HRSA grantees could apply as well as organizations applying for the first time.

“It is fitting that these awards are announced as we celebrate National Health Center Week,” said HRSA Administrator Mary K. Wakefield, Ph.D., R.N. “These awardees join the 1,100 current health center grantees that provide affordable community-based primary care to more than 19 million people across the country.”

Health Center New Access Point grants, listed by organization and state, are available at http://www.hrsa.gov/about/news/2011tables/110809newaccesspoints.html.

A fact sheet about community health centers is available at http://www.hrsa.gov/ourstories/healthcenter/healthcenterweek.html.

To learn more about the Affordable Care Act, visit www.healthcare.gov. To learn more about HRSA’s Community Health Center Program, visit http://bphc.hrsa.gov/about/index.html. To find a health center in your area, visit http://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov.

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The Health Resources and Services Administration is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. HRSA is the primary Federal agency responsible for improving access to health care services for people who are uninsured, isolated, or medically vulnerable. For more information about HRSA and its programs, visit www.hrsa.gov.


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There is already grant money outside of obamacare for these clinics. There is zero proof that it has anything to do with obamacare. Title must be edited to remove false claim and outright LIE.

lol, hypocrisy.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Everything spidey says from his mouth is hypocritical.

And the Obamacare people are deceptive. In essence if one is against it then one is against any improvements. This has nothing to do with Ryan who doesn't get it either. That there are elements of Obamacare which are beneficial does not mean that the whole thing has to be swallowed or be a hypocrite. Only the daft or dishonest would make that claim.
 

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So a politican is asking for grant money for his state or district, what's new or revealing about this? That's what they do. I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with obamacare.
No it's pure hypocrisy, because he's not respecting the soveriengty of all the other States to not fund obamacare. These funds wouldn't have been appropriated without obamacare and he is actively choosing to keep the system going when he doesn't even need it for himself.
 

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No it's pure hypocrisy, because he's not respecting the soveriengty of all the other States to not fund obamacare. These funds wouldn't have been appropriated without obamacare and he is actively choosing to keep the system going when he doesn't even need it for himself.

One could make an argument that Ryan is being hypocritical. What is also hypocritical is when wealthy people complain about taxes being too low then not paying what they think they should. We had a few threads about that, but it was "oh they aren't being hypocritical because they are just taking advantage of whats out there. Then they'll change."

Right. That's hypocrisy, or is it pragmatism? That seems to have been the argument. So Ryan is taking some of the hypocritical money to pragmatically build something for someone else while the hypocritical "taxem" crowd hypocritically defends those who hypocritically cry for higher taxes and yet won't pay "their fair share" to benefit- themselves.

How hypocritical.
 
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