Ryan says Obama has 'Gone to Great Lengths' to Keep Gas Prices High

[nehalem256]

While I have little doubt that Obama wants higher gas prices in the long run...

(1) I see no "Great Lengths" that Obama has gone to to keep them higher. Maybe at most preventing some drilling in the Gulf of Mexico? But I would not call that great lengths

(2) For obvious reasons he wants to keep them lower in his first term.

 

[umbrella39]

Yet another drill baby drill fucktard named Ryan. Do some sheep still cling to this bs...

 

[trenchfoot]

If anyone wants to defend Obama and his alleged affect on the price of gas, just look up all those old threads where the Repubs in this forum defended Bush 43 when the price of gas shot up while he was in office. Most of the reasons they gave were wrapped around the notion that the president had hardly any influence at all on the cost of gas.

 

[Rainsford]

Under my plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket.
-barrack Hussein Obama.

You mean the out of context quote that didn't summarize his actual plan describing a plan that never actually happened and that had nothing to do with gas prices in the first place?

 

[spidey07]

You mean the out of context quote that didn't summarize his actual plan describing a plan that never actually happened and that had nothing to do with gas prices in the first place?

It clearly shows his true beliefs and goals. That would be higher energy prices for all.

Do I need to drag out his administration hoping to achieve Europe gas prices?

Right, it was out of context. Keep spinning. Fucker said what he wanted to do, why is anybody surprised that Obama is doing what he said he would do?

Have you taken a look at your energy prices?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Smoblikat
Whats obamas plan? To keep denying us to use our own gas and buying from an unstable middle eastern country whose relationship with us is strained at best.

Really?!?! That must be why we are at a 20 year low when it comes to oil imports.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...ts-to-seen-hitting-20-year-low-42-of-use.html

You want to know why nobody takes conservitards seriously?

Because you spout off stupid fucking lies that have not basis in reality.

You are a piss-poor uninformed citizen.

When they are paid by the GOP to post lies I would not consider them an uninformed citizen.

 

[Rainsford]

It clearly shows his true beliefs and goals. That would be higher energy prices for all.

Do I need to drag out his administration hoping to achieve Europe gas prices?

Right, it was out of context. Keep spinning. Fucker said what he wanted to do, why is anybody surprised that Obama is doing what he said he would do?

Have you taken a look at your energy prices?

I have, but I've also taken a look at what Obama has done as President....and I don't see anything that would directly lead to increased energy costs. And at the same time, I DO see factors outside his control that would raise prices.

 

[spidey07]

I have, but I've also taken a look at what Obama has done as President....and I don't see anything that would directly lead to increased energy costs. And at the same time, I DO see factors outside his control that would raise prices.

You do realize his cabinet sets policy, right?

Time to dig up posts where you blamed bush for energy prices.

Keystone pipeline comes to mind. He has done everything he can to raise price of energy. He said he would do so and he has.

Fuck be upon him.

 

[nehalem256]

You do realize his cabinet sets policy, right?

Time to dig up posts where you blamed bush for energy prices.

Keystone pipeline comes to mind. He has done everything he can to raise price of energy. He said he would do so and he has.

Fuck be upon him.

This is wrong. He has to maintain plausible deniability in his first term.

 

[K1052]

You do realize his cabinet sets policy, right?

Time to dig up posts where you blamed bush for energy prices.

Keystone pipeline comes to mind. He has done everything he can to raise price of energy. He said he would do so and he has.

Fuck be upon him.

Phase 4 of Keystone will have a negligible impact on oil/refined product prices. All that Canadian tar sand oil that would be delivered to TX would be bound for export as refined product, we would see very little here in the US since they can also dodge tariffs by exporting from Port Aurthur and Canadian sands oil presently sells in the US at a discount.

 

[RightIsWrong]

While I am in no way saying that the Obama administration has done anything to get the price of oil/gas in check, I would have liked to ask VP Candidate Ryan one simple question:

"Wouldn't Obama benefit a lot more come November if he were able to get gas prices consistently under $3 and be a shoe-in if it got even within shouting distance of $2?"

His stance that Obama is artificially keeping them inflated doesn't make any logical sense when he (Obama) benefits more when they are lower and the oil and gas sector have made 88% of their donations to Republican candidates including their largest donor, one Mitt Romney.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/totals.php?cycle=2012&ind=E01

 

[LegendKiller]

Hedge fund flows into gas/oil have reached all-time highs. Ryan wants to benefit hedge funds by lessening regulations, dropping capital gains taxes and lowering other marginal tax rates to the wealthy.

So really, he and his kind are the ones fucking this country. Granted Obama isn't doing anything to prevent this also.

 

[umbrella39]

Nice to see the spidey persona still stuck on irreparably stupid fuckstain. Retire the account already. Stick that fuck right back up your ass where it belongs upin you!

 

[csteggo]

You, McOwen are always stating how you like prices to be high and that you appreciate the politicians making an effort to keep them there. I can understand why you are upset that a Republican might destroy your wet dream.

I have yet to see how Romney/Ryan would do that. The pipeline? That goes into the global commodity market usually basing the the price off the the best profit ratio. Meaning no change. This idea that the president has anything to do with the gas pricing is almost humorous. It wasn't Bush's fault, it isn't Obama's. Now the argument for oil speculation and collusion between different aspects of the market as conspiracy theorist sounding as it is does seem to have merit.

 

[soulcougher73]

Wait..i thought it was common knowledge among us that the president has no say or control over gas prices?

 

[kage69]

I guess those Nebraska Republicans are really deep cover Obama operatives...

People that are still butthurt over that Pipeline should direct their scorn to the appropriate cause: Boner and the pubbies who were desperate to create any kind of bad press concerning energy while Obama was in office.

Sorry about your investments Boner, guess you did a piss poor job convincing Nebraskans they were more important than their water table.

 

[lotus503]

Obama doesn't set the price of oil.
OPEC and private industry speculation does.

 

[kage69]

Wait..i thought it was common knowledge among us that the president has no say or control over gas prices?

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[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm not sure what realistic options remain for lowering energy (oil and refined products in this case) pricing. The only thing we could probably do is realign our energy consumption to use more natural gas, particularly for transportation.

The US needs to do what it and insurance companies do with drugs. Determine the costs of domestic oil production and allow others to drill on a cost plus fee basis for any public lands. Out may surprise many but the actual reimbursement on the whole is quite low. Whatever is produced domestically goes into our pipeline for our use and market prices do not apply. Some small fee is added to create fund for energy research and the results licensed at no cost for domestic use. Anyone else pays a licensing fee. Of course rational regs need to be written of course, but "realistic" is merely making it happen, no technical objections.

 

[Icepick]

In other words, the "tell any lie needed to swing votes no matter how absurd" is in full effect. The Tea Party must be feeling very desperate at this stage in the game.

 

[K1052]

Of course rational regs need to be written of course, but "realistic" is merely making it happen, no technical objections.

I mean politically as well as technically. A lot of things are technically possible that are politically impossible.

What you suggest would require congress (with a Republican house no less) to effectively impose a massive piece of regulation on the domestic oil industry. An industry that is awash in cash for lobbying.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I mean politically as well as technically. A lot of things are technically possible that are politically impossible.

What you suggest would require congress (with a Republican house no less) to effectively impose a massive piece of regulation on the domestic oil industry. An industry that is awash in cash for lobbying.

Didn't stop anyone with Obamacare. The problem is "my guy is better than your guy" and not holding ones own for being bereft of ideas. But before that the saying "You've identified a problem, what is your solution" applies. It's good to question, but to do so with an inquisitive attitude is better yet.