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Stuka87

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Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices :(



 
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It's not really just the mid-range. If you know of a market segment that doesn't have massively inflated prices let me know. I, uh, have a friend who might be interested.
So that excuses AMD for increasing the MSRP in a price-sensitive market segment by 35%?
 

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So that excuses AMD for increasing the MSRP in a price-sensitive market segment by 35%?

They are a publicly traded company. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to generate profit. Under pricing their goods (that they are supplied constrained on anyway) is contrary to them meeting that responsibility.

Frankly, I'd rather AMD have the revenue than the scalpers because at least MAYBE it goes back into R&D for more sweet competitive parts in the future.

Or maybe stock buybacks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But when prices on "real" GPUs are like $650 (easily) and up well... I want to know where @DAPUNISHER got his 3060 at near MSRP. I sign up for ALL the shuffles and have only won the option to buy a overpriced 6800XT paired with a board I didn't want. Hindsight says I should have bought it anyway.
 
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They are a publicly traded company. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to generate profit. Under pricing their goods (that they are supplied constrained on anyway) is contrary to them meeting that responsibility.
So are NVIDIA. Man, people like to come up with weird excuses.
 

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But when prices on "real" GPUs are like $650 (easily) and up well... I want to know where @DAPUNISHER got his 3060 at near MSRP. I sign up for ALL the shuffles and have only won the option to buy a overpriced 6800XT paired with a board I didn't want. Hindsight says I should have bought it anyway.
I won the shuffle. But don't be too bummed, it is the Asus dual OC, not exactly a primo model.
 

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So that excuses AMD for increasing the MSRP in a price-sensitive market segment by 35%?

What does it matter what AMD sets the MSRP at when you won't find any cards for it?

Suppose AMD had set the MSRP for this card at $200. Wow, such great value in this day and age. Unbelievable value! How could you not rush out to buy one of these amazing $200 cards?

If you want meaningless numbers to help you feel better, by all means indulge yourself, but this isn't at $380 card any more than it's a $200 card. It's a ~$600 card and that's the only number that matters.
 

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What were his settings for Doom Eternal at 1080p? Steve produced a repeatable and massive 20 percent loss. Click the vid, starts at right spot.




Computerbase also tested Doom at PCI 4 vs 3, and they relate nothing of the sort, 0% difference for average and 2% for the 0.2% min framerates.


Their FPS range is 150-190 at 1080p, so they either used higher settings or a more demanding scene, that should put more pressure bandwith wise, CPU is the same, a 5950X.
 
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So are NVIDIA. Man, people like to come up with weird excuses.

Wut? Yeah. Exactly. Nvidia has been pushing GPU prices up for what, the last three generations or so? Normalized the $400-$700 price point easily.

They both want to make a bunch of money. Actually, they need to or there are consequences.

Can't wait to see what low MSRP's come in 2022.
 
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There is a thing called perception. AMD got greedy this time around, while NVIDIA didn't. People remember these things.

Really? Are you watching a different channel of GPU releases? Didn't the MSRP of several NVidia GPUs go up since they were launched?


I mean it's cool to drop a batch of cards that sells out in 10 seconds with a "low" MSRP and then quietly increase prices after the reviews are out. Reeks of a good will building campaign.
 
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There is a thing called perception. AMD got greedy this time around, while NVIDIA didn't. People remember these things.

Those ones have a short, low capacity, memory..
What i remember is the 7970 sold at ultra competitive price, and it happened that it was a total mistake financiarly speaking, i dont think that AMD will ever repeat such a blunder.
 
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Here is how I feel about the whole MSRP thing -

*awesome*

I think maybe you are right on the "if we go mercilessly negative on this we can get some mileage out of yet another GPU launch that is just cards you can't actually buy" take on this. It's not really about the card at all, because that's boring.

Clicks + views.

That was on AIBs who used this market to increase their razor-thin margins. Sure they said it was because of silicon shortage but we all know that it was an excuse.

For all I care AMD can keep increasing prices to fulfill their obligation to shareholders, but customers aren't having any of that. The end result is that even with scalper prices AMD is creeping up to become more expensive than NVIDIA, despite having lower MSRP, in Germany for example, and certainly in my country.

I am not sure what the difference is when none of the AIB's sell the cards for MSRP?

Do you know that NVidia has kept their costs per GPU the same for the AIB's through this time?

If AMD cards cost more than Nvidia cards (due to AIB pricing, right?) in some regions that must be because people are willing to pay more for them? Or there are regulatory/import issues that push costs and prices up? Doesn't mean much to me one way or the other with regards to which company is giving their customers more "respect" or "value." What you are seeing seems to contradict your point that MSRP matters.
 
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I think maybe you are right on the "if we go mercilessly negative on this we can get some mileage out of yet another GPU launch that is just cards you can't actually buy" take on this. It's not really about the card at all, because that's boring.

Clicks + views.
Yup. Everyone has been salty for a long time now. No one wants to see reviews of cards they can't buy. But if you chum the water enough, you might get a feeding frenzy going. Give the mob something to turn their anger on, besides you.

We should be roasting long hair Steve for ruining a 3080 in the name of science. Could have picked out of storage, or bought, an old power hungry POS card to sacrifice.
 

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I just want to state the facts that Reviews are pointless if we can't get the item being reviewed...

End of Rant...

I still want a Wifu edition card btw.... but i'll probably never get one.

We should be roasting long hair Steve for ruining a 3080 in the name of science. Could have picked out of storage, or bought, an old power hungry POS card to sacrifice.

i think he sort of did it on purpose seeing how it was the really horrible gigabyte 3 stacked card.
I really think he wanted a reason to kill it, and RMA it, and this way he can say, i used a gigabyte board + gigabyte PSU + Gigabyte GPU, and it died from your really horrible PSU.

But that 3080 had major major problems with cooling especially the RAM, hence why you don't see a STRIX or a FTW3 edition card in there.
 

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What does it matter what AMD sets the MSRP at when you won't find any cards for it?

Suppose AMD had set the MSRP for this card at $200. Wow, such great value in this day and age. Unbelievable value! How could you not rush out to buy one of these amazing $200 cards?

If you want meaningless numbers to help you feel better, by all means indulge yourself, but this isn't at $380 card any more than it's a $200 card. It's a ~$600 card and that's the only number that matters.

It matters because they won't always be MSRP and if/when the market demand crashes, you'll have cards with price/perf that look even dumber than they do now. It also lets them keep prices higher next gen.

It would be nice if AMD put some of their profit to keeping drivers alive for R9 200 cards another year at least.
 

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No AMD cards cost more where I live because AMD doesn't like to keep up the supply - their relationship with importers and retailers is rubbish. Always was, always will be. This is the problem with AMD; outside of their primary markets, they simply do not care. And then people (on this forum) expect customers (like in my country) to care about AMD.

Rarely a post was of so bad faith..

AMD has very good relations with retailers whatever the country unless those retailers are crappy ones, so complain to your unprofessional sellers not to AMD, but i guess it s just an invention of yours as a mean to downplay anything AMD...
 

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Rarely a post was of so bad faith..

AMD has very good relations with retailers whatever the country unless those retailers are crappy ones, so complain to your unprofessional sellers not to AMD, but i guess it s just an invention of yours as a mean to downplay anything AMD...
LOL accusing me of making up stories and trying to imply that I know less about retailers in my country than some random European dude on an American forum.
 

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It's just a bad card.
-The actual MSRP - i.e. the MSRP of AIB models which are the only ones you can buy are $500 before they get inflated.
-It has 8* connector which hits anyone without PCIE4 for 2-12% so a massive incentive not to buy for a large % of potential purchasers.
-It's infinity cache means performance starts to fall off above 1080p so a bad choice if you have a higher res monitor or are thinking of buying one. Who'd be buying new at $500 and not thinking of running at a higher res at some point - we all own cards that are doing fine at 1080p already?
-Just to top it off it's well down on features vs Nvidia equivalents.
 
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All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

It is like 10% faster than the 3060 in 1080p raster. I agree that in normal times it would have been cheaper than the 3060.
 
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All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

In all likelihood, the 3060 and 6600XT will cost about the same at AIB pricing. There will likely be "premium" 3060s at over $500 (I think the shuffle yesterday had a 3060 card only at $520) and 6600XTs that run the same gamut. I am comfortable saying they are the same class of card and that for both cards the MSRP number is imaginary.

What I would be somewhat interested in is the pricing to OEMs. I am assuming that as these are "entry level" gamer cards that slot in just above the 1660/1660Ti that has been in basically everything under $1K for the last year how that shakes out. I would imagine MSRP has little relevance to these contracts and that this is the true way that market share is built.

The commanding lead of the 3070 in Steam surveys, for example, had to have been pushed by OEMs in a big way given the relative lack of retail availability there was.