Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

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Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices :(



 
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The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices :(
At 1440p it is faster than the 5700 XT but only barely. The gap between it and the 3060 Ti grows much bigger there too. It's all largely theoretical anyway.

Here's the compubase review.
 

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Seems like a decent GPU actually, my only complaint for it would probably be the x8 lanes for PCIe bus. The price is probably going to be all over the place, as with any GPU, so I would not even get hung up on that right now.
 

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Seems like a decent GPU actually, my only complaint for it would probably be the x8 lanes for PCIe bus. The price is probably going to be all over the place, as with any GPU, so I would not even get hung up on that right now.
You mean PCie 3.0 vs 4.0.?.
It makes negligible difference.


 
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As TPU points out, at MSRP this could've been the best bang for the buck card but there is no reference design for sale and MSRP doesn't exist so we are stuck with this pile of junk.
 

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You mean PCie 3.0 vs 4.0.?.
It makes negligible difference.


No, I mean the x8 lanes. It is mentioned in the TPU article in the conclusion. You are correct though, that it doesn't make much difference, but still. So if someone does not have PCIe gen 4 on their board, they will be likely limited to PCIe gen 3 x8.

As TPU points out, at MSRP this could've been the best bang for the buck card but there is no reference design for sale and MSRP doesn't exist so we are stuck with this pile of junk.
Not being available at MSRP does not make a card a pile of junk. It is still the same card, just pricier. Having a card with 2GB of DDR3 might make said card a pile of junk, at least for gaming, but that is not the case here.
 
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Reposting here because it's buried on the other thread:

Looks like at WQHD it's essentially tied with the 5700xt at whatever improved efficiency. Which doesn't seem like a bad showing at all, I used my 5700xt for WQHD gaming and was really happy with it.

A mix of High/Very High and the rare medium/low (BL3 smoke effect, looking at you) usually allowed for ~90+ FPS gaming.

LOL at the Tom's byline:

Navi 23 only has 8GB of GDDR6 on a 128 bit bus

I mean, the 3070ti only has 8GB of ram? Byline of that review:

GA104 gets a GDDR6X Upgrade

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Targeting sub $400 (I KNOW) and 1080P, 8GB seems like enough to me for that to not be the biggest factor to call out. That's Tom's #1 criticism of the 6600XT.

The more I compare the reviews of the 6600XT to the 3070ti (I know, not a normal comparison but latest releases from each) it's kinda nuts. 6600XT has a blistering, 3.5 star "OUR VERDICT" section right at the top. 3070Ti has no such section even though it seems to me that it deserves the same rating overall in terms of relative value to the 3070 and "crippled" by 8GB of ram as well.
 
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The more I compare the reviews of the 6600XT to the 3070ti (I know, not a normal comparison but latest releases from each) it's kinda nuts. 6600XT has a blistering, 3.5 star "OUR VERDICT" section right at the top. 3070Ti has no such section even though it seems to me that it deserves the same rating overall in terms of relative value to the 3070 and "crippled" by 8GB of ram as well.
The Tom's review had a bunch of cringe aspects to it, a few have already been changed.
 
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The Tom's review had a bunch of cringe aspects to it, a few have already been changed.
It's a head scratcher. At 1080p it easily bests the 3060 with 12GB of ram and 192 bit bus based on their own measurements:

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And same at 1440p:

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That's some great journalism there.

Finally Power Usage:
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Very nice. Arguably better perf/watt than 3060 too.

Cringe paragraph (to me):

"Average clock speeds for the RX 6600 XT set a new record of 2640MHz during the Metro Exodus benchmark. It's a pretty steady clock speed as well, and above the official AMD boost clock of 2589MHz — but it's a factory overclocked card, and ASRock doesn't list a maximum boost clock. Meanwhile, the average clock speed in FurMark still comes in at an impressive 2353MHz, basically matching the RX 6700 XT. By comparison, Nvidia's GPUs all clock at least 700MHz lower, and in some cases, more than 1GHz lower than the RX 6600 XT. We'd be worried AMD was heading down the NetBurst and Bulldozer path to higher performance, chasing clock speeds at the cost of efficiency, were it not for the relatively tame power use."

Back handed compliment much? lol.

Also, graphs for reference! I don't think they are a be all end all, but it's somewhat fair to say, IMO, the 6600XT is delivering 2070S/5700XT (both 256 bit cards, so that IC is really doing its thing) performance in gaming at a significant power savings and unless someone really wants to split hairs, its close enough.
 

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This is one sweet card.

Looks like 36 MH/s with a starting board power of 160 watts. Yes, this compares unfavorably to the 5600xt 40 MH/s at 150watt, but 5600xt's cannot be had for less then $600 used.

Anyone who manages to pick one of these up at $379 will be doing quite well, with a 5 month payback without tweaking. With the nice 7nm process this card is made on, I suspect it could be tweaked to do quite a bit better.

oh, gamers? -- . . . -- You really should write your congress critters and ask them to ban crypto already.
 
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I am always curious to see how new cards will do in various compute scenarios including mining. I suspect the sweet spot will be similar to 5600XT in regards to performance and power draw in ETH/ETC, about 40MH/s at ~90W. Possibly less power than that even. The thing is, I suspect the 128bit memory bus will limit ETH hash rate quite a bit. For an idea, I have ran 2 5700XT's at about 90W or so, at 50MH/s. Anyway, time will tell as far as OC and tweaking on these cards, and that goes for both gaming and compute.

On a side note, you should really try to keep the politics out of this area, it gets tiresome.
 

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It's a head scratcher. At 1080p it easily bests the 3060 with 12GB of ram and 192 bit bus based on their own measurements:

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And same at 1440p:

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That's some great journalism there.

Finally Power Usage:
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Very nice. Arguably better perf/watt than 3060 too.

Cringe paragraph (to me):

"Average clock speeds for the RX 6600 XT set a new record of 2640MHz during the Metro Exodus benchmark. It's a pretty steady clock speed as well, and above the official AMD boost clock of 2589MHz — but it's a factory overclocked card, and ASRock doesn't list a maximum boost clock. Meanwhile, the average clock speed in FurMark still comes in at an impressive 2353MHz, basically matching the RX 6700 XT. By comparison, Nvidia's GPUs all clock at least 700MHz lower, and in some cases, more than 1GHz lower than the RX 6600 XT. We'd be worried AMD was heading down the NetBurst and Bulldozer path to higher performance, chasing clock speeds at the cost of efficiency, were it not for the relatively tame power use."

Back handed compliment much? lol.

Also, graphs for reference! I don't think they are a be all end all, but it's somewhat fair to say, IMO, the 6600XT is delivering 2070S/5700XT (both 256 bit cards, so that IC is really doing its thing) performance in gaming at a significant power savings and unless someone really wants to split hairs, its close enough.
That s not a regular 6600XT, they use an Ocked one even if increasing frequency doesnt bring much perfs in the table but still increase power substancially...

Computerbase test two cards and the one at stock use 147W while the slightly ocked is at 163W (11% more power) for only 2% better perfs, FTR the 3060 is at 172W.
 

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Haha, the headline of this review:


Then opines about how the 3060Ti and 2060S "at a street price of about $500" box in the 6600XT and make it worthless. And how the 6600XT is priced only $10 cheaper than a 3060Ti FE. I wish that mattered, too.

LOL - where can I buy these $500 3060Tis?!? Or even new 2060 Supers?

Also, for good measure: DLSS is magic and ubiquitous while FSR is vastly inferior and unused. I usually like Ars but the Kool-Aid must be delicious.

That s not a regular 6600XT, they use an Ocked one even if increasing frequency doesnt bring much perfs in the table but still increase power substancially...

Computerbase test two cards and the one at stock use 147W while the slightly ocked is at 163W (11% more power) for only 2% better perfs, FTR the 3060 is at 172W.
To be fair, the lack of reference model kind of throws that all up in the air. You have to review what you get. I mean, it's miles different but at least a touch similar to the 3080. Yeah, it's perf per watt could be great but you get it how nvidia spec'd it and how board partners integrate it, some with even higher TBP allowances. I guess we'll just have to see where the AIBs generally fall with 6600XT TBP settings but I'd guess many skew them higher rather than toe the line. Because "OC" stickers sell.
 
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Performance is exactly were I expected at 1080p and QHD but at 4K is a little bit worse than I expected.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-6600-xt-strix-oc/28.html
Mindfactory is selling Palit 3060ti at 639€ with stock, Powercolor 6600XT fighter or similar models should have street price 519€ at most with the QHD difference just to much 3060ti price/performance ratio (without taking account the Nvidia advantages!)
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Palit-GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti-DUAL-OC-GDDR6-LHR-HDMI-3xDP--Retail-_1388337.html
 
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Haha, the headline of this review:


Then opines about how the 3060Ti and 2060S "at a street price of about $500" box in the 6600XT and make it worthless. And how the 6600XT is priced only $10 cheaper than a 3060Ti FE. I wish that mattered, too.

LOL - where can I buy these $500 3060Tis?!? Or even new 2060 Supers?

Also, for good measure: DLSS is magic and ubiquitous while FSR is vastly inferior and unused. I usually like Ars but the Kool-Aid must be delicious.
Ars is not the only site using the disingenuous MSRP/RRP. E.G. Benchmark Steve Talks about how AMD wants to compare it to the 3060, but because of pricing versus 3060ti they will be having none of that. None of what? MSRP is fantasy land, and analysis based on it are pointless. It only serves to push a negative review out for more views. I have seen tech tubers admit before, negative content gets much more attention than positive, taken as a whole.

The 6600xt has good performance for the power budget. But it doesn't matter unless you can buy it at a price that makes sense. Which you can't. I would be very interested in it if I could. I am done with power hungry hardware. I (over)paid $449 for a Asus 3060 last month. Ferengi math does not decide the value for me, no matter how many people invoke it. I decide what price to put on it. It replaces a Vega 56 that could draw close to 350W, was the twice the size, and produced much more fan noise. Never mind I sold it for more than the 3060 cost. :D Does that make me the Ferengi? Dang it!

 

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Ars is not the only site using the disingenuous MSRP/RRP. E.G. Benchmark Steve Talks about how AMD wants to compare it to the 3060, but because of pricing versus 3060ti they will be having none of that. None of what? MSRP is fantasy land, and analysis based on it are pointless. It only serves to push a negative review out for more views. I have seen tech tubers admit before, negative content gets much more attention than positive, taken as a whole.

The 6600xt has good performance for the power budget. But it doesn't matter unless you can buy it at a price that makes sense. Which you can't. I would be very interested in it if I could. I am done with power hungry hardware. I (over)paid $449 for a Asus 3060 last month. Ferengi math does not decide the value for me, no matter how many people invoke it. I decide what price to put on it. It replaces a Vega 56 that could draw close to 350W, was the twice the size, and produced much more fan noise. Never mind I sold it for more than the 3060 cost. :D Does that make me the Ferengi? Dang it!
Hey, selling a Vega 56 which is very good at some things and buying a 3060 for a reasonable power consumption gaming card? Makes tons of sense to me.

It seems unpopular but getting new cards that are at least 2060S/2070S/5700XT levels of performance is good when you can sell your old cards for inflated values. That's another discussion topic, but if these are widely available at $500 (@Leeea, I know. Probably a fantasy.) that's a win if you can sell your RX 580 for over $300. It was probably always going to cost about $200-$300 to upgrade :p

Actually, that's a review I'd like to see without patching in generations - how does a $400 RX580 8GB stand up to the 6600XT?
 

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