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RX 480 not an acceptable upgrade from my GTX 780

bpmasher

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Just saw some benchmarks comparing these two cards and checked out hwcompare.com and I came to the conclusion that the performance upgrade would not be significant enough to warrant an upgrade.

Sure more VRAM and DX12 support would be nice, but new games can still use DX11 and I can play these games at high or medium settings with my current card. I can run The Division at 60fps with high to medium settings and it's my current game I'm playing.

The GTX 1060 offers 75% more pixel rate than the 780 so that might be a viable upgrade. Though with the 1060 tying with RX 480 or losing out in DX12 games I don't think I should be upgrading my GPU just yet. I need a mid range card but these choices I currently have are not good enough for an upgrade.

The 1070 costs about 550 euros for non-reference models but I think that price is ridiculous for a GPU with my monitor (1080p). If I can get a mid-range card for 250 euros that runs current and future games at 60fps guaranteed with ultra settings, that would be the card for me. For now, I will have to wait for the prices to drop for these cards and keep my trusty 780 (which I paid 400 euros for!). DX12 can wait for a while.
 

NTMBK

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Well no, the 480 is the Pitcairn replacement, and Pitcairn was competing with cards like the 760 and 750ti back in the day. You're jumping down by two price brackets, no wonder it's not a big upgrade for you.
 
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bpmasher

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The asking price for non-reference RX 480 is 350 euros, and I paid 400 euros for 780, which smashed through all the current games back then. The prices are messed up currently for these cards.

I would gladly pay 400 euros for a 1070, but that's not happening any time soon.
 

nerp

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You're going from a higher end card a generation ago to a mid range card today. The actual upgrade would be a GTX1080 or a GTX1070. Or, when it comes out, the RX490.
 

bpmasher

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400e for a 1070 is good. And a considerable upgrade from my current card. I want to keep it at least for 2 years.
 

Zstream

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I would save your money and wait for the next generation of cards later this year or early q1 of next. Just my 2 cents
 
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zinfamous

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I would save your money and wait for the next generation of cards later this year or early q1 of next. Just my 2 cents
This. If you can grab that 1070 at 400e now, that is your best "now" option, but it sounds like you are satisfied at the moment and feel no rational reason to upgrade right now. In the end, waiting until next year to see all of the newer releases, and then compare that to cost of 1070/1080 in ~3-6 months will give you far more options.
 

Thinker_145

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Keeping in mind the release fiasco of all the current gen cards I would say we are looking at a year before you will be able to buy any of the next gen cards at the actual price. Now with stabilizing prices for all current gen cards this would actually be the worst possible time to "wait".

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railven

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If I can chime it, seems more like the price pike are killing him. 400 euros for a
What next generation of cards, the next gen is here...
I just assumed he meant wait for Vega. Which could chance the pricing landscape. But that's so far off.
 

bpmasher

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I would actually be happy with the 1070 for a bit lower price (lower than 550e). It seems like a proper upgrade and seems to have longevity for at least couple of years. On 1080p I'm looking at new games for 60fps actually looking like next gen games. MMOs would run like a dream on this card.
 

96Firebird

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I'm not sure how it works over in Europe, can you buy a card from a different country and have it shipped to Finland? The cards seem to be cheaper in other countries...
 

Jackie60

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Surely there are no import duties from Germany to Finland-that's sort of the point of the EU. I don't know about non Euro areas but Finns and Germans both use the Euro so you should not have to pay duty.
 

Hi-Fi Man

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Surely there are no import duties from Germany to Finland-that's sort of the point of the EU. I don't know about non Euro areas but Finns and Germans both use the Euro so you should not have to pay duty.
That's what I thought however, I wasn't 100% sure because I've never ordered something from outside Germany besides the U.S. In that case 429.99€ is a decent price for a 1070 and a good upgrade from a 780 (in fact I upgraded from my 780 to a 1070).
 

Leyawiin

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If you have a GTX 780, GTX 780 Ti or GTX 970 the only thing that makes sense is a GTX 1070. A GTX 1060 or RX 480 are barely more than side-grades.
 

Mondozei

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If you have a GTX 780, GTX 780 Ti or GTX 970 the only thing that makes sense is a GTX 1070. A GTX 1060 or RX 480 are barely more than side-grades.

The 780 is actually not a good GPU. It has aged terribly, so I don't know why it is being compared to the 780 Ti. Most websites don't even include the 780 in comparison charts, so it is hard to show how bad it is, but it is *well* below a 290 these days. I believe Sweclockers phased out their 780 last year during spring. TPU no longer include it in their charts either.

A 480 would not be a "sidegrade". Not even close. A 1060 even less so.

The asking price for non-reference RX 480 is 350 euros
So this is the real problem with this entire thread. The issue here is not the 480, it's that your national market is garbage.

If you pay 350 euros for a 480 then your prices are redacted. Here in Sweden, the asking price for non-ref 480s are around 260-280 euros.

Thus, the problem isn't the 480 in your case, so I don't know why you whine about it in your title of this thread. The problem is your internal market. INB4 "yes but all prices are local". I know. But I'm just pointing out the illogical/incoherent title. OP is blaming 480 in the title. He should have written it "I live in country with a redacted-tier national price market. Let me whine about it".



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YBS1

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The 780 is actually not a good GPU. It has aged terribly, so I don't know why it is being compared to the 780 Ti. Most websites don't even include the 780 in comparison charts, so it is hard to show how bad it is, but it is *well* below a 290 these days. I believe Sweclockers phased out their 780 last year during spring. TPU no longer include it in their charts either.

A 480 would not be a "sidegrade". Not even close. A 1060 even less so.
I kind of agree with what he's saying here and will lump the 780ti in with it. In the admittedly limited gaming I've done on the 480 it seems to be nearly in step with the SLI'ed Classified 780s I'm running on the other pc. Now granted the 6700K may be helping pull some of that weight, but still. Black Ops 3 runs nearly as fast on the single 480 as the dual 780s, and I'd have to check again but I'm wanting to say Doom seemed more playable on the 480 than the 780s. The real question would be do you sell your old hardware and if so what do you expect you could get from the 780? If it's half the cost of the 480 or more, I'd say the 480 would be a solid upgrade. If you don't sell your old hardware I'd say wait for a greater improvement.
 

IllogicalGlory

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The GK110 based GPUs at least aged much better than the GK104/106 SKUs. Had to be terrible for someone buying a 1.5GB 660 Ti over a 3GB 7950 and expecting any kind of longevity or even 1.5GB 660 over a 2GB 7870.
 

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