RV770 specifications revealed

JPB

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Is there supposed to be a 4850 graphics card as well ?
 

Sylvanas

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I wonder when they plan to launch the RV770 vs the R700- I'd assume R700 first followed by RV770 much like the R600 followed by the RV670. Have to wait and see.
 

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RV670:
320 SP @ 775Mhz
16 TMU
16 ROP

RV770:
480 SP @ 850Mhz (+10% clock) (combined with the 50% more SP it gives a theoretical processing power of +65%)
32 TMU (+110%)
16 ROP (+10%)

Seems like it should be able to throw a punch.....

Seems like it will be 850 not 1050
 

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Originally posted by: reviewhunter
A total of 960 shaders for the X2 baby!

250W is just getting more environmentally unfriendly.

it's not too bad for the rv770x2 @ $499 - 'idle' is <25w
[Quad Xfire would be 500w ;) - better 'n r600/670]

and the single rv770 is 150w @ $299

they look to beat the current 9800 series and the X2 will probably easily take on GX2 .. i am interested in seeing what GT200/GT100 will bring as competition to r700
 

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If they come with 32 texture units, Nvidia might not be able to handle it. This was always the weakpoints of AMD designs and by giving it more Texture units and a reasonable upgraded number of SPs with more mhz this should put them in great shape. I don't know if Nvidia can make a next gen graphics adapter, they are pushing the limits as it is unless they go to 45nm.
 

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Originally posted by: hooflung
If they come with 32 texture units, Nvidia might not be able to handle it. This was always the weakpoints of AMD designs and by giving it more Texture units and a reasonable upgraded number of SPs with more mhz this should put them in great shape. I don't know if Nvidia can make a next gen graphics adapter, they are pushing the limits as it is unless they go to 45nm.

Nvidia learned their less on with the FX series, never use a untested manufacturing process to launch a product. ATI seemed to make that mistake several times in a row.

TSMC's 55nm process seems to be solid though, and TSMC recently announced their 40nm production capability.
 

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They're moving to GDDR5 and 1GB on the top end already? Jesus.

The price estimates are actually much higher than the 3000 series was at launch, though.
 

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Based on those specs, it looks as though it will marginally beat out the 9800GTX, and perhaps even tie or beat the 9800GX2 in some tests.

I'm actually disappointed in the specs. I do not expect this card to beat the GT200 when it is released, as it should be considerably faster than the 9800GTX by default.

The X2 version of the new core does look interesting.

You never know; this card could turn out to be a beast. On paper it looks about 3 times as powerful as a 3870.
 

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Its more of a refresh than a new GPU arch imo. I bet the actual R700 have been pushed back due to various factors (cutting cost from R&D is one).

32TMUs mean both 32 TAU and TFU (unless its even more beefier). RV670/R600 both had 32 TAU and 16 TFU. Comparing this with G92 and 64 TMUs, nVIDIA still has a much more raw texturing power. But im a little skeptical on the current specs since the ALU:TEX ratio is down to 3:1 from 4:1 which doesn't make much sense seeing as ATi has been pushing the higher ALU:TEX ratio pretty aggressively compared to nVIDIA for quite awhile now.

So a total of 480 ALUs in grouped into 96 vec5 shaders (well not really vec5) which is a nice boost but im not so sure just how much improvement we will see with the increase in shader units seeing as RV670 is already much stronger when it comes to shaders compared to its competition G92/G80 (unless its the utilizations of the shaders that cut alot of potential to its theoretically stronger shader performance). Maybe there could be more efficent shader AA along with this, which will make AMD/ATi to finally target high end market once again using a single GPU card.

GDDR5 is quite new, and the starting memory clock for those are 1.6GHz i believe. (3200MHz effective!) Im sure these will cost quite abit (since they are fairly new), and im abit skeptical on the usage of GDDR4. Seems like GDDR4 has been "skipped" since it doesn't really bring much onto the table when keeping cost in perspective.

For reference, a 8800 Ultra (full fledged G80) is roughly 30~50% faster than the full fledged RV670. Currently i think the RV770 is going to be faster or on par with the 9800GTX. (Maybe even faster when AA/AF is applied due to having much higher bandwidth). Even though this may not be the actual R700 that ATi was working on, i think its a good move from AMD seeing as its a really competitive product in all the big categories i.e performance/price/watt/features.
 

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Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Its more of a refresh than a new GPU arch imo. I bet the actual R700 have been pushed back due to various factors (cutting cost from R&D is one).

32TMUs mean both 32 TAU and TFU (unless its even more beefier). RV670/R600 both had 32 TAU and 16 TFU. Comparing this with G92 and 64 TMUs, nVIDIA still has a much more raw texturing power. But im a little skeptical on the current specs since the ALU:TEX ratio is down to 3:1 from 4:1 which doesn't make much sense seeing as ATi has been pushing the higher ALU:TEX ratio pretty aggressively compared to nVIDIA for quite awhile now.

So a total of 480 ALUs in grouped into 96 vec5 shaders (well not really vec5) which is a nice boost but im not so sure just how much improvement we will see with the increase in shader units seeing as RV670 is already much stronger when it comes to shaders compared to its competition G92/G80 (unless its the utilizations of the shaders that cut alot of potential to its theoretically stronger shader performance). Maybe there could be more efficent shader AA along with this, which will make AMD/ATi to finally target high end market once again using a single GPU card.

GDDR5 is quite new, and the starting memory clock for those are 1.6GHz i believe. (3200MHz effective!) Im sure these will cost quite abit (since they are fairly new), and im abit skeptical on the usage of GDDR4. Seems like GDDR4 has been "skipped" since it doesn't really bring much onto the table when keeping cost in perspective.

For reference, a 8800 Ultra (full fledged G80) is roughly 30~50% faster than the full fledged RV670. Currently i think the RV770 is going to be faster or on par with the 9800GTX. (Maybe even faster when AA/AF is applied due to having much higher bandwidth). Even though this may not be the actual R700 that ATi was working on, i think its a good move from AMD seeing as its a really competitive product in all the big categories i.e performance/price/watt/features.

Sort of how I see it. Unless games come out that aren't console ports, there is no need for a card twice as fast as current tech, but cheaper and cooler will be welcome.
 

SlowSpyder

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Is the RV770 going to be the mainstream card, and the RV700 the enthusiast card? If so, seeing how these are the specs for the 'mainstream' card then the RV700 could turn out to be quite the power house... this is assuming I'm reading this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Is the RV770 going to be the mainstream card, and the RV700 the enthusiast card? If so, seeing how these are the specs for the 'mainstream' card then the RV700 could turn out to be quite the power house... this is assuming I'm reading this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, traditionally the 'RV' in front of the model number denotes mainstream e.g. RV470, RV570 and now RV670 this generation. I am more interested in the R700 at the moment.
 

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Based on those specs, it looks as though it will marginally beat out the 9800GTX, and perhaps even tie or beat the 9800GX2 in some tests.

I'm actually disappointed in the specs. I do not expect this card to beat the GT200 when it is released, as it should be considerably faster than the 9800GTX by default.

The X2 version of the new core does look interesting.

You never know; this card could turn out to be a beast. On paper it looks about 3 times as powerful as a 3870.

I am not sure 3 times but if the TMUs were a bottleneck then 2 times would be more accurate.
But GPUs are so complex that you never know though.
Maybe current RV670 with double TMUs would be 2x faster and RV770 with more shaders can end up being more than 2 times. It's very hard to predict what's going to be the next bottleneck. Time will tell.
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Is the RV770 going to be the mainstream card, and the RV700 the enthusiast card? If so, seeing how these are the specs for the 'mainstream' card then the RV700 could turn out to be quite the power house... this is assuming I'm reading this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, traditionally the 'RV' in front of the model number denotes mainstream e.g. RV470, RV570 and now RV670 this generation. I am more interested in the R700 at the moment.

I believe that R700 will be much like R680...ie, 4870x2.
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Is the RV770 going to be the mainstream card, and the RV700 the enthusiast card? If so, seeing how these are the specs for the 'mainstream' card then the RV700 could turn out to be quite the power house... this is assuming I'm reading this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, traditionally the 'RV' in front of the model number denotes mainstream e.g. RV470, RV570 and now RV670 this generation. I am more interested in the R700 at the moment.

I believe that R700 will be much like R680...ie, 4870x2.

Bah, multi GPU. :( Maybe if it has matured enough by the time it launches it'll be a better choice then it is now. Guess we'll have to wait and see... after all I did just get a new 790FX chipset powered board.
 

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Things were simpler when the term pixel pipeline was still in use. What are the stats on the current cards out right now? TMUs, ROPs, unified pipes, etc.