Russia's Toughest Prisons

[JeffreyLebowski]

Lol @ all the people saying this is what we need. Funny how there never is any correlation between how brutal the judicial system is and the level of violence in society outside. Well actually in some ways there is, the more brutal the system the more violent the society outside a well. Or vice versa depending on how you want to look at it. And the countries with some of the lowest crime rates happen to often have some of the best prisoner treatment. There are some exceptions to this but it's pretty solid. Go back a few hundred years and things get even more extreme. Steal a loaf of bread and get your hand cut off, murder someone and get your end trails pulled out, public executions. And yet rates of violent crime back in the middle ages were staggeringly high even with the horrible horrible punishments visited upon those caught. No this is not what we need. People think they want this, for revenge, but they don't really want the society that results from having this.

Most of the countries with less violence in their population have way less immigrants, and frankly, they don't have to deal with inner city ghetto mentality that we have in America.
When you have an entire culture within a society that uses prison as a right of passage or a show of power, you'll always have more problems.

Prisons should be run with 1 person to a cell, they don't get out of that cell for anything until their time is served. Play Mozart and other classical music 24/7. You can have your few trusted prisoners work the laundry and serve food. Behave and you get a chance at working in the laundry or food prep. don't behave, get the fire hose turned on you.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Marked.

 

[lyssword]

Most of the countries with less violence in their population have way less immigrants, and frankly, they don't have to deal with inner city ghetto mentality that we have in America.
When you have an entire culture within a society that uses prison as a right of passage or a show of power, you'll always have more problems.

Prisons should be run with 1 person to a cell, they don't get out of that cell for anything until their time is served. Play Mozart and other classical music 24/7. You can have your few trusted prisoners work the laundry and serve food. Behave and you get a chance at working in the laundry or food prep. don't behave, get the fire hose turned on you.

Funny you should say that, because Russia has 10x less immigrants compared to U.S.
I have actually seen reports where it was mentioned that immigrants to most countries are less likely to be criminals than general population.

 

[Powermoloch]

We need a russian prison system here.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I have actually seen reports where it was mentioned that immigrants to most countries are less likely to be criminals than general population.

Perhaps in most countries. I wonder how well that applies to the US. We have a lot of immigrants (legal or not) that are poor families from South/Latin America. It may not be the immigrants themselves that are a problem, but their children who grow up the in ghetto.

It's also hard to deny that the WoD plays a massive role on our prison populations.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Funny you should say that, because Russia has 10x less immigrants compared to U.S.
I have actually seen reports where it was mentioned that immigrants to most countries are less likely to be criminals than general population.

I should have worded that, illegal immigrants.

 

[JSt0rm]

god damn that dog is some serious shit

 

[gevorg]

I hope you guys realize that those videos in OP show the "bright" side of that prison.

The Russian genpop prisons are even worse. For example, during Soviet times the prisoners would tattoo Lenin or Karl Marx on their chests just so the guards would not hit on that area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLqnh6-F5AQ (part 1, follow related videos for the rest)

 

[TallBill]

Eh, super expensive to run. Try going to a prison in Afghanistan, that's something you don't wanna do!

 

[TallBill]

Also, a family member of mine works in a supermax here in the states and its pretty much like black dolphin. The prisoners go there to die, attacks on guards or other inmates are so ungodly rare because its on total lockdown like this video.

 

[Modelworks]

I think they should run prisons like the USA military runs theirs. I can't even watch shows like lockup anymore. Whenever I see a prisoner laying on a bed in his cell with all kinds of snacks and drinks piled up, tv connected to cable tv, and bitching about how they got it so hard inside I want to puke. Then when I see another inmate throwing feces at guards and laughing about it or throwing a tantrum like a 2 year old and refusing to leave their cell and having to be pulled out it makes me even more ill.

 

[Modelworks]

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Prisons should be run with 1 person to a cell, they don't get out of that cell for anything until their time is served. Play Mozart and other classical music 24/7.

They actually tried that in the USA. They were designed by the Quakers and were called penitentiaries because it was thought that a prisoner should be penitent for what they had done. Each man was placed in a single cell. The cells had no windows just a skylight. No talking was allowed and no man was allowed to leave his cell. It was found that it didn't work and often drove the men insane.

 

[Baked]

I want one of these for my new guard dog, to protect my car from my neighbor's cat

 

[cliftonite]

Doesn't this seem staged? The prisons seems mighty clean and spotless. I bet the conditions are much different without the camera crew.

 

[TallBill]

Doesn't this seem staged? The prisons seems mighty clean and spotless. I bet the conditions are much different without the camera crew.

The only thing that seemed staged was the part where the Lt Guard gives his little speech to the other guards. However, this being Russia, I'd say even that was real.

 

[DVad3r]

tag

 

[Exterous]

Marked

They tried that once. It's called Australia.

Actually they tried it here too. Documentary link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/