Russian jet carrying KHL team crashes, 43 dead

[gevorg]

RIP

 

[dennilfloss]

Video taken shortly after the crash. The plane reportedly did not gain height fast enough to clear a radar tower.

http://www.sovsport.ru/video/gallery-item/s0_4606

Only Galimov and one crew member survived.

Here's the roster.

A plane crash also decimated another Russian team during the 50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ied_during_their_playing_career#Player_deaths

 

[Jeffg010]

Only Galimov was burned over 80% of his body. D:

 

[davmat787]

Here is a photo of the exact aircraft (reg: RA-42434) that crashed, taken about a year ago.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Proton/Yakovlev-Yak-42D/1797881/L/

 

[sdifox]

there is actually a movie based on this exact thing happening. was some college football team i believe.

sad story about the hockey team though.

Alive is the movie you are thinking of. Uruguayan rugby team. Based on true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106246/

 

[BoomerD]

Here is a photo of the exact aircraft (reg: RA-42434) that crashed, taken about a year ago.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Proton/Yakovlev-Yak-42D/1797881/L/

Sure looks a lot like a Boeing 727, doesn't it?

 

[gevorg]

The Yak-42 is quite new, most build in the 1980s, the likely cause of the crash is a typical problem of a no-name Russian airline: overloading, shitty fuel, and no proper maintenance. Russia has hundreds of small airline companies with a handful of planes who don't give a damn about their reputation. This is why sometimes oligopolies are better.

 

[davmat787]

Sure looks a lot like a Boeing 727, doesn't it?

Well, they are both tri-jets and have retractable stairs in the back so I guess one could also pull a D.B. Cooper in the Yak 42. The Yak is much smaller however, and I will go out on a limb and say it is nowhere near the aircraft the venerable 727 is.

 

[iGas]

Here is a photo of the exact aircraft (reg: RA-42434) that crashed, taken about a year ago.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Proton/Yakovlev-Yak-42D/1797881/L/

It is an old plane, that has been in service since 1980.

There are suggestions that it could be over weight, flap setting, or bird strike.

Crash: Yak Service YK42 at Yaroslavl on Sep 7th 2011, failed to climb on takeoff -- The Aviation Herald

 

[Kaekae]

Pavol Demitra was on the place and he was an above average scorer in the NHL in his prime.

So sad!

 

[Unheard]

A couple of former NSH players on board as well. Sucks.

 

[Squisher]

The coach Brad McCrimmon lived right here in Northville. He was going to use head coaching in the KHL as a springboard to a head coaching job in the NHL. RIP.

 

[Albatross]

I am surprised a Russian plane crashed.

 

[oogabooga]

Mother of Sergey Ostapchuk (one of the players who died) had a heart attack upon hearing the news on the crash. She died

well if they have all of their gear in addition to luggage i can see why.

Hard to imagine even with gear 43 people overloading a 120 (I think?) capacity plane. Then again, maybe they over loaded gas/had something else. I don't know.

 

[davmat787]

Hard to imagine even with gear 43 people overloading a 120 (I think?) capacity plane. Then again, maybe they over loaded gas/had something else. I don't know.

One of my favorite sites out there has data pages for almost every major aircraft, here is the data page for the YAK-42D.

Assuming the info is correct in that the aircraft that crashed is the YAK-42D model, it was introduced in 1989. A typical config allows for 120 passengers, so I doubt weight was the cause. I have not read much on the accident yet, but apparently the aircraft was not climbing which could indicate an incorrect flap setting. I believe this was also one of the causes of the crash back in the 80's out of DC where the plane crashed into the Potomac. Icing was also a factor if I my memory servers serve correctly.

 

[Locut0s]

One of my favorite sites out there has data pages for almost every major aircraft, here is the data page for the YAK-42D.

Assuming the info is correct in that the aircraft that crashed is the YAK-42D model, it was introduced in 1989. A typical config allows for 120 passengers, so I doubt weight was the cause. I have not read much on the accident yet, but apparently the aircraft was not climbing which could indicate an incorrect flap setting. I believe this was also one of the causes of the crash back in the 80's out of DC where the plane crashed into the Potomac. Icing was also a factor if I my memory servers serve correctly.

So I was wrong. Someone didn't hit the "wings fall off" button. They hit the "plane malfunction" button. Easy to do on a Russian cockpit console.

 

[RbSX]

Honestly, the KHL, like every other thing in Russia is shady as fuck.

I was reading a few months ago that a guy was told he was signing a medical waiver (it was written in cyrillic) but it was actually a release form.

The KHL has had a really hard time luring talent away from the NHL, and this certainly won't help their cause. Not that it matters, the KHL is a joke anyways, where NHL careers go to die.

RIP to the players, hopefully the teams will be more accountable and responsible when choosing methods of transportation now.

 

[Locut0s]

Honestly, the KHL, like every other thing in Russia is shady as fuck.

I was reading a few months ago that a guy was told he was signing a medical waiver (it was written in cyrillic) but it was actually a release form.

The KHL has had a really hard time luring talent away from the NHL, and this certainly won't help their cause. Not that it matters, the KHL is a joke anyways, where NHL careers go to die.

RIP to the players, hopefully the teams will be more accountable and responsible when choosing methods of transportation now.

"You want skate? You sign form, we fix leg! Sign form, fix leg, you skate."

"Yeah but I can't read this."

"You no read, you sign"

"Yeah but I hardly understand any Russian. I wouldn't know what I'm agreeing too."

"Shut up, sign"

"Umm okay... wait a sec... why's this written on the back of a restaurant menu?"

"You want see hole"

"Sorry what"

"You want hole?"

"What"

*harsh sounding Russian being spoken to some big guy in a suit out of sight*

"Okay he put you in hole"

"Umm... on second thought my leg's all better. Where do I sign again?"

 

[Slew Foot]

Salei and Demitra were decent players in the NHL.

 

[Blackjack200]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLfW75yJERc

Tribute to the team. Watching this made me cry.

 

[Blitzvogel]

I am surprised a Russian plane crashed.

Russian civil aviation is horridly under managed and regulated. Russian/Soviet aircraft ruggedness is extremely overrated. Many Russian jets have the provision to land on unprepared airstrips in extreme cold but that really isn't anything special.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Sweet, new episode of Air Crash Investigation (Mayday to you Yanks).

 

[Dominato3r]

Terrible off season for Hockey

 

[gevorg]

Not that it matters, the KHL is a joke anyways, where NHL careers go to die.

 

[H54]

The Yak-42 is quite new, most build in the 1980s, the likely cause of the crash is a typical problem of a no-name Russian airline: overloading, shitty fuel, and no proper maintenance. Russia has hundreds of small airline companies with a handful of planes who don't give a damn about their reputation. This is why sometimes oligopolies are better.

Thank you. I'd bet a substantial amount of money that the cause is maintenance. We'll have to wait for something official.