Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Indus

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Even though we are far and away the biggest contributor to Ukraine, we need to remember all the places in Europe who also insist that Ukraine win. Balts, Poles, Finns, Romanians, others, they all had a much different experience next to or under the Soviets - and have zero intentions of letting it happen again. They will continue helping Ukraine win no matter who controls the US government.

I'm just not sure about the Frenchies anymore.. Macron and Le Pen seem to be posturing for this war to end so they can get the gas turned back on.

It's incredibly short sighted of the French to act counter to NATO but it would not be the first time.. after all they're the country that let the Nazi's just walk on in without a fight.

If anything it demonstrates that once Putin started the invasion.. Globalism has been mortally wounded. Most countries do not want to do business with their enemies and strengthen them.

Now is the age of either Strategic National Alliances or pure Nationalism. Whichever form wins out is far from certain but the trend is set.

I hope the US does it smartly and keeps a few allies in important positions and keeps being an ally of Ukraine. If for nothing else Ukraine has a lot of natural uranium and is the bread basket of Europe!
 
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kage69

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Ugh, Pelosi, how did you manage to say the Ukraine at his intro?

Well done Zelenskyy! I still expect Team Treason to prefer Putin and Russian mafia to Ukrainian democracy, but good job nonetheless. Even made some people laugh at one point, true to your comedic roots. Some 21st century Churchill shit right there, bravo.

Biden should send them a thoughtful Xmas gift. A stunning bouquet of vibrant GLSDBs, for instance. 500 or so would be a touching sentiment IMO.
 

RnR_au

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Yeah its a little scary on how effective a comedian is as President. How do we install comedians as leaders in Iran, Turkey, Myanmar, etc...
 

Bitek

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You love to tell fibs to justify Russia attempt at Genocide. You would be marginally more believable if you could actually present truthful information; which is likely beyond your capacity. Russia attack on Ukraine has nothing to do with fear of 'weapons' being provided to Ukraine nor NATO expansion; rather it was a crude an extremely poorly executed attempt to steal territory they though would be easy to claim via conquest. As a result of Russia (or more precisely Putin's greed) it has placed itself in a precarious position not just because of the west response but the blatant level of corruption within Russia that manifest itself in exposing an incompetent military from ground up. We won't get into the tragic lost of life on both sides as well as the terrorist and immorale behavior of the Russians which is the true cost of this illegal invasion.

Clearly you could care less about any of this as you present your propaganda which is really an explanation for your own behavior.

My neighbor bought a gun because he thought I was unhinged after I burned down my other neighbor's shed and threatened to kill his dog.

That bastard is going to threaten me?

Of course, I had to then shoot his kids, r*pe his wife, smash his furnace and steal his washing machine.. What choice did he leave me? Self defense.
 

rommelrommel

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Even though we are far and away the biggest contributor to Ukraine, we need to remember all the places in Europe who also insist that Ukraine win. Balts, Poles, Finns, Romanians, others, they all had a much different experience next to or under the Soviets - and have zero intentions of letting it happen again. They will continue helping Ukraine win no matter who controls the US government.

If Poland could get all the hardware they recently ordered tomorrow half of it would be in Ukraine by Christmas.
 
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Muse

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Hey moron, thanks for confirming the fact that liberals like you are some of the worst bigots. I always known it for a long time and now it is confirmed here for the world to see.
Damn, boy, drop some LSD or somethin'... you be delirious!
 

WelshBloke

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1 - Easy to say when your country isn’t the one who is having its main adversary putting weapons on your border.

Your point is that Russia was afraid of Ukraine invading Russia with those weapons? Or that those weapons would make it more difficult for Russia to bully Ukraine? Because one of those options sounds a lot more plausible than the other.
2-Actually it was Russia who repeatedly warned NATO to stop pumping weapons into NATOs eastern flank and stop pushing for Ukraine/NATO membership...

Russia doesn't get to dictate terms to either NATO or Ukraine.

NATO basically told Russia to fuck off, and now as a result you have Ukrainians with no heat or power.

Thanks NATO.
No. Thanks are due to Russia. They are the ones that invaded a sovereign nation, they are the ones targeting civilian infrastructure and they are the ones that are sacrificing their future for the arrogance of their vain glorious leader.

BTW I don’t believe Putins request was unreasonable. If Russia or China were pumping in weapons into Canada or Mexico, this country would lose its shit and we would immediately respond. But Russia is just supposed to sit there with its thumb up its ass while adversaries are pumping weapons into its neighboring country and launching coups to put puppets in power.

Russia needs to sort out its own shit before messing in everyone else's. The reason people are desperate to leave Russias sphere of influence and align more with the West is that life in Russias sphere of influence is shit. That's no ones fault but Russias.
 

Braznor

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Amazing, isn’t it for a “first” world country…


Hey moron, I got news for you. India isn't a first world country yet.

This is the second time I corrected you over this fact. You are slow to learn aren't you? Don't worry though, inability to learn is unfortunate a part and parcel of a bigot's damaged life.
 
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Braznor

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Hitching your countries wagon to Moscows mule is a spectacularly bad move right now. Your choice but you're picking the wrong side.

India has made its position clear on the war: cessation of all hostilities of the war and resumption of dialog. You approaching this all wrong, don't resurrect the ugly 'if you are not with us, you are against us' mentality.
 

KMFJD

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brycejones

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India has made its position clear on the war: cessation of all hostilities of the war and resumption of dialog. You approaching this all wrong, don't resurrect the ugly 'if you are not with us, you are against us' mentality.
That’s a fucking dumb position. Russia can end the war anytime it wants to by having its forces leave Ukraine and ending its 8 year long invasion of Ukraine.

Taking any other position is favoring Russia.
 

Indus

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1 - Easy to say when your country isn’t the one who is having its main adversary putting weapons on your border.

2-Actually it was Russia who repeatedly warned NATO to stop pumping weapons into NATOs eastern flank and stop pushing for Ukraine/NATO membership, which we all know would never happen anyway straight from Zelensky’s mouth:



NATO basically told Russia to fuck off, and now as a result you have Ukrainians with no heat or power.

Thanks NATO.

BTW I don’t believe Putins request was unreasonable. If Russia or China were pumping in weapons into Canada or Mexico, this country would lose its shit and we would immediately respond. But Russia is just supposed to sit there with its thumb up its ass while adversaries are pumping weapons into its neighboring country and launching coups to put puppets in power.
Bwahahahahaha you can't fix stupid!

Big uptick in Orcs meeting their maker yesterday.

 

Indus

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India has made its position clear on the war: cessation of all hostilities of the war and resumption of dialog. You approaching this all wrong, don't resurrect the ugly 'if you are not with us, you are against us' mentality.

In 1971 you were required to give up all your seized territory as a prerequisit for ending the war.

Why is that so hard for Russia to understand or do the rules only apply to India but not Russia?
 

Jaskalas

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In 1971 you were required to give up all your seized territory as a prerequisit for ending the war.

Why is that so hard for Russia to understand or do the rules only apply to India but not Russia?

The "rules" are whatever we want them to be, and some people, like Fox News, want Russian victory.
Last night's Trucker was absolutely disgusting. Full throttle on the lies and the propaganda, anything to get Americans to hate Ukraine and favor genocide.

And make no mistake, my local Trumpers are ready to storm Kyiv and take it themselves after listening to Fox News. Completely 100% in the tank for Russia and anything that favors Putin.
 

brycejones

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The "rules" are whatever we want them to be, and some people, like Fox News, want Russian victory.
Last night's Trucker was absolutely disgusting. Full throttle on the lies and the propaganda, anything to get Americans to hate Ukraine and favor genocide.

And make no mistake, my local Trumpers are ready to storm Kyiv and take it themselves after listening to Fox News. Completely 100% in the tank for Russia and anything that favors Putin.
Yeah the uptick I've seen in comments sections about Ukraine being run by a dictator and stealing US money is dramatic over the last few weeks.
 

WelshBloke

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India has made its position clear on the war: cessation of all hostilities of the war and resumption of dialog. You approaching this all wrong, don't resurrect the ugly 'if you are not with us, you are against us' mentality.
As I said, it's Indias right to pick it's own position. But that said it's going to have to live with the repercussions of those positions.
 
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Indus

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And make no mistake, my local Trumpers are ready to storm Kyiv and take it themselves after listening to Fox News. Completely 100% in the tank for Russia and anything that favors Putin.

If they care about Russia so much, why don't they fucking move over there?

Gen Z showed America is a lost cause for them and they're only going to age out out of the voting base as Gen Z REPLACES them.. cue the GEN Z REPLACEMENT THEORY!