Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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JEDI

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How Russia so badly mismanaged its invasion:

It was a cascade of failures, and at the top is Putin’s own misguidedness, his own isolation and his own conviction that he knew what was best. The Russian military was unprepared all the way down to a tactical level, like using Soviet-era maps. :eek:
Like using their cellphones to call home, which gave away their positions and allowed them to be ambushed or attacked.
There wasn’t enough food to feed the soldiers. :eek:
We got hold of actual copies of some of the invasion plans that some of the Russian military units had, which showed them expecting to race toward Kyiv within hours of invading. Russian military leaders didn’t think they’d need any reinforcements.​
I talked to many people who knew Putin personally, and they told me that the decision to go to war was based on his gut feeling.
Putin didn’t seem to think he needed advice on the wisdom of this invasion.
Putin was convinced that he knew best, that he understood Ukraine and its place in history as well as his own.​

This is still mind boggling:
Not enough food to feed the soldiers

How can you START a war without this basic necessity?!
 
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rommelrommel

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Everyone knew there was some theft, but the further you got up the chain the less you knew. There was also no motivation for low level supply personnel or commanders to admit they were woefully unprepared. They didn’t even know they were actually going to attack Ukraine in most cases. Those that did were told they’d be welcomed by the people and most of the military for casting off the yoke of their Jewish Nazi globalist western puppet leaders.
 
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Jaskalas

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The drones are meant to inflict damage at a fraction of the cost of missiles.
Still seems effective, even if only a handful get through at a time.
 

K1052

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The drones are meant to inflict damage at a fraction of the cost of missiles.
Still seems effective, even if only a handful get through at a time.
If you have a large steady supply of expendable drones high rates of failure due to mechanical or interception is acceptable. The problem for Russia is that their supply is almost entirely limited by what the Iranians can provide and that's by no means bottomless. There was just a long lull in these attacks due to Russia expending their stock much faster than Iran can make them. A lot of the components have to be scavenged from the black and grey markets because they can't be had legally from foreign suppliers.

I think most daytime raids with these had become virtually useless as Ukraine adapted by simply mounting 12.7mm or better guns on everything they could find.
 

KMFJD

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sounds like Russian bloggers are at their shits end

~The result at the moment (which the Russian media and biased bloggers are diligently trying to cover up with stories about how the fucking positions are taken out by 57-mm anti-aircraft guns and how cool it is to burn through the life of tank barrels with constant firing from closed positions) is a monstrous shell hunger in artillery. Air strikes from afar with unguided 80-mm rockets from a pitch-up (because if you fly closer, they will shoot you down) are also something only tickles a well-entrenched enemy, although it can look very impressive. Pew pew pew! Hooray! What a shot! And when the smoke settled – another plowed field. And the remnants of cannon artillery shells are spent, of course, on these same mini-Verduns throughout the contact line, which the Russian army diligently breeds one after another, grinding down infantry at them. Did the artillery gain radically more “eyes” in the air after 10 months? No. Did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation bring the artillerymen enough autumn and winter camouflage nets for their guns? No. And winter is ahead. It will no longer be possible to hide the guns in the forests – the forests are bare, and then more snow will fall and in general, every step will be visible from the air. And the enemy with the UAV is doing well. Even considering losses. On our side, the stupid morons who wasted the ammo on plowing the fields decided to replace the six-inch projectiles with VOGs [grenades] dropped from copters. With the motivation “Well, ho@#!s do it!”

Russians are starting to use tanks for artillery roles as they are running out of shells , thereby wasting the tanks (well tank barrels)
 
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K1052

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sounds like Russian bloggers are at their shits end

~The result at the moment (which the Russian media and biased bloggers are diligently trying to cover up with stories about how the fucking positions are taken out by 57-mm anti-aircraft guns and how cool it is to burn through the life of tank barrels with constant firing from closed positions) is a monstrous shell hunger in artillery. Air strikes from afar with unguided 80-mm rockets from a pitch-up (because if you fly closer, they will shoot you down) are also something only tickles a well-entrenched enemy, although it can look very impressive. Pew pew pew! Hooray! What a shot! And when the smoke settled – another plowed field. And the remnants of cannon artillery shells are spent, of course, on these same mini-Verduns throughout the contact line, which the Russian army diligently breeds one after another, grinding down infantry at them. Did the artillery gain radically more “eyes” in the air after 10 months? No. Did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation bring the artillerymen enough autumn and winter camouflage nets for their guns? No. And winter is ahead. It will no longer be possible to hide the guns in the forests – the forests are bare, and then more snow will fall and in general, every step will be visible from the air. And the enemy with the UAV is doing well. Even considering losses. On our side, the stupid morons who wasted the ammo on plowing the fields decided to replace the six-inch projectiles with VOGs [grenades] dropped from copters. With the motivation “Well, ho@#!s do it!”

Russians are starting to use tanks for artillery roles as they are running out of shells , thereby wasting the tanks (well tank barrels)
The number of indicators that Russia is running short of munitions/barrels/parts for their 152s and 122s has been growing in discussion some lately. I mean you don't go begging North Korea for shells if your burn rate is anything close to acceptable too.

Both sides have been using tanks as improvised artillery but more reports lately of Russians doing it and ruining the barrels because they aren't careful.
 
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cytg111

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So. This talk about a major push come early next year is... propaganda to start negotiations?
 

RnR_au

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I don't know where they are pulling the bodies, hardware or supplies from to do it.
There are reports that police and emergency services have been told to prep a go bag. Large amounts of former military personnel are in these services and they have been immune to mobilisation so far. Looks like they are next.
 

JEDI

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GoPackGo

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So Russia continues to burn through old tech, Ukraine gets newer Tech from many different countries. Completely sustainable for the Russians.
 
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Braznor

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The BJP will just blame the other parties and especially the Muslims.
At some point someone is going to have to sail a Navy in and end the blockade to end the famine.



Interesting thing is India is first up to starve. India moved quick to support Russia in this, and India is getting that cheap blood oil from Russia. Blood oil does not feed anyone though. Not feeling like we should put our people in harms way for India just yet.

The famine will not stop at India though, and eventually someone is going to have to do something.
Liberal fantasies at its core.

So there was no blood oil when the West wrecked half the Middle East through invasions and craftily sponsored civil wars?
 
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