Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Meghan54

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"Our"

Lololol

The argument is what, exactly? Most of the arms are going somewhere else for some reason, and this was the only cover to do it under?

And Russia is getting repelled by only a fraction of what we sent over?

And there is some random Himars driving around Nigeria? Why? Again.

So if that’s the case, that the Russians are facing only a small fraction of our mostly not-first-line-weaponry due to it all going into Africa instead, WTF does that say about the Russian military?

And can you imagine how utterly humiliated and defeated Russia would apparently be if it faced our true first-line weaponry. It’dbe the 72 hour war Putin envisioned…just going the wrong way for him.
 
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cytg111

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So you think it's Russian weapons getting lost? Here's another source, the Pentagon:




Believe it now?

Not a surprise when we send 100+ billion to the second most corrupt country in Europe.

But that article in no shape or form supports your claim. What are you doing man. Stop it.
 

sdifox

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Interesting



I remember reading about that phenomenon a long time ago. Doesn't shortwave depend on atmospheric reflection?

A movie was made about a particular Aurora Borealis reflecting radio signal through time. I think it was called Frequency.
 
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fskimospy

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You do realize you can just go to Google news and type in 'Nigeria Ukraine Weapons' and find the same report from many other sources right? Since it seems you only follow establishment news, here is one from CBS that was not allowed to air:

So now your claim is you deliberately chose a source that’s posted insane conspiracy crank stuff about Ukraine?

Did you think this through?
 

fskimospy

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I remember reading about that phenomenon a long time ago. Doesn't shortwave depend on atmospheric reflection?

A movie was made about a particular aurora Borealis reflecting radio signal through time. I think it was called Frequency.
That’s what allows HF transmissions to exceed line of sight, yes.

The radio rooms on the ships in my battle group used to compete to see who could establish the farthest contact while on deployment. (We were very bored)
 

kage69

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Putin's back in a bunker, this time supposedly over the flu that is ravaging Moscow and other Russian cities. Swine fly making a comeback, detected in 82 Russian regions Doubtful those Ukrainian airborne threats weren't factored in though I bet.

Just feels like the viruses are rallying. Isn't China getting slapped with covid again now that Xi rolled over for the protests?

I've got two very sick boys who have stayed home since Monday, heard yesterday 60 other kids are out sick from their tiny school.

I hope we're giving the Ukrainians plenty of vaccines and medicine!
 
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Roger Wilco

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Putin's back in a bunker, this time supposedly over the flu that is ravaging Moscow and other Russian cities. Swine fly making a comeback, detected in 82 Russian regions Doubtful those Ukrainian airborne threats weren't factored in though I bet.

Just feels like the viruses are rallying. Isn't China getting slapped with covid again now that Xi rolled over for the protests?

I've got two very sick boys who have stayed home since Monday, heard yesterday 60 other kids are out sick from their tiny school.

I hope we're giving the Ukrainians plenty of vaccines and medicine!

Yeah, China is getting hammered by Covid right now and they are completely unprepared.
 

K1052

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Great news, though there is still the significant threat of combat air patrols with the Mig-31BM interceptors armed with the very long range and very fast R-37M missiles being the most dangerous. I think even with JDAM-ER this will be a problem.



The Russian Air War and Ukrainian Requirements for Air Defence (rusi.org)

Ukrainians probably have a good idea about where and when these patrols are so there are likely holes. Effective use of the AGM-88s we supply them would seem to support this.
 

Ajay

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You wanna bet Tucker and Fox News will be all over it, to ENSURE some 40% of our nation automatically believes Russian propaganda?
Man that guy. Too bad a driver probably takes him to work every day. A few 'accidentally' open sewer covers could bring some normalcy back to Fox 'News".
Watching him (very rarely) makes me want to poke an ice pick in my ears.
 
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Mai72

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With the escalating economic toll on Ukraine, as the Russians intend, the cheapest way to reduce the burden is to supply Ukraine with more and better weapons. We and our allies seem to be coming around to this conclusion albeit slowly.

The UK stated they are considering supplying Ukraine with Storm Shadow (presumably the limited export version) and given British proclivities for surprises nobody might find out until after they have done so. Longer range and more powerful PGMs have been entering the discourse a lot more recently than usual.
 

cytg111

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Russia warns US about shipping Patriot missles. Ha! And what are the Russians going to do? NOTHING! I say bring it on Putin.

Maybe we should invade Russia? Inform Putin who is the boss. :D

Well ONE predictable outcome is that shit wont crash in Polands backyard again.
 

brycejones

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Russia warns US about shipping Patriot missles. Ha! And what are the Russians going to do? NOTHING! I say bring it on Putin.

Maybe we should invade Russia? Inform Putin who is the boss. :D

I would like to take a moment to acknowledge Mai72 saying bring it on and not being scared the world is going to end because Ukraine is getting more capabilities to defend itself.

Great growth!
 
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trenchfoot

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For some odd reason I still can't decide whether getting rid of the total command structure of a Russian military unit is a good thing or a bad thing for the cannon fodder under their command.
 

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So now your claim is you deliberately chose a source that’s posted insane conspiracy crank stuff about Ukraine?

Did you think this through?
I'm puzzled by this comment; i mean why would he think it through after all he is one of those trolls that does little more than spread conspiracy theories. You know the worthless sort of individual that takes up space and does nothing useful.
 
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Meghan54

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I would like to take a moment to acknowledge Mai72 saying bring it on and not being scared the world is going to end because Ukraine is getting more capabilities to defend itself.

Great growth!
Mai72 couldn’t last a week in basic training, so the “ bring it on” seems a little disingenuous since it’ll be anyone else “bringing it on”.
 
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So now your claim is you deliberately chose a source that’s posted insane conspiracy crank stuff about Ukraine?

Did you think this through?


CBS, the Nigerian president, and the Pentagon is where I am getting my sources. But if you want to keep your head buried in the sand when it comes to anything that paints Ukraine/NATO in a negative light, be my guest.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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German economy might go boom next year, while we profit off of it!


FRANKFURT, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Germany is bleeding cash to keep the lights on. Almost half a trillion dollars, and counting, since the Ukraine war jolted it into an energy crisis nine months ago.

That's the cumulative scale of the bailouts and schemes the Berlin government has launched to prop up the country's energy system since prices rocketed and it lost access to gas from main supplier Russia, according to Reuters calculations.

Of course, this could have been avoided if Germany/France enforced the Minks peace agreement, when in reality they had no intention of peace and wanted a war with Russia. Congrats, you got it.


The Minsk accords were signed to "give Ukraine time" to strengthen itself, according to ex-German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was in office from 2005 to 2021, in an interview published on Wednesday in the Zeit newspaper.

Merkel said "The 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give time to Ukraine. It also used this time to become stronger as can be seen today. The Ukraine of 2014-2015 is not the modern Ukraine."
 

rommelrommel

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German economy might go boom next year, while we profit off of it!




Of course, this could have been avoided if Germany/France enforced the Minks peace agreement, when in reality they had no intention of peace and wanted a war with Russia. Congrats, you got it.


Have you ever read the Minsk agreements?

If so, or if you could be bothered to read them, please direct me to the part of either Minsk agreement that would suggest at all that Ukraine would be prohibited from using any intervening peace to strengthen its military.
 

Jaskalas

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We’re paying attention…

Is that before or after 200,000 more Russians enter Ukraine?
Our help always seems to arrive a bit late, after a lot of damage has been done.

I ever worry that Ukraine has a limit on both men and resources. We must guarantee Russia cannot break them.
 
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