Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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KMFJD

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Putin's really letting himself go if he's appear on state television drunk
 
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Indus

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"Neutral" Switzerland benefited a lot from Nazi gold and art confiscated from Jews who then lost their lives. And, when found out long after the fact, fought like hell against returning any of it.

And their cheese is full of holes. Just like their true morals..
 

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It is said to be the most popular news anchor in the US. Is this true? And do many of his viewers agree with what he says?
. . .

They put him into a special category to claim that. "Cable News Host".

The normal channels are not considered "cable news" so they are not counted against him.


To put Tucker in perspective, on his best night in April of 2020 he had 4.5 million viewers.

That is 1% of the population.


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Cable channels require a subscription, usually around $100 per month, to a cable service to view. Easy to track what people watch though.

OTA, or Over The Air, cost nothing to view. It is like tuning into a radio station in your car or whatever. Difficult to track how many people tune in, but trivial to tune in.


So Fox News channel, which Tucker Carlson plays on, had 2.337 individual million viewers for the month of August 2022.

Very loyal viewers, who watch every night religiously. But the same viewers night after night.


Lets compare this to the Public Broadcasting Station's free over the air channel. It is hard to find numbers for PBS, but this pops up:
https://www.census.gov/history/www/homepage_archive/2015/october_2015.html
"Today, more than 100 million households view PBS television programming each month—including 77 percent of all children aged 2 to 8—making it the nation's fourth most-watched television network."

Note we are comparing individual viewers to households here.


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If we take just one program from the PBS channel, PBS newshour, there is no good way to tell how many people are watching the OverTheAir free channel on any given day.

But PBS Newshour does claim to have a digital audience of 27 million. The OTA audience will be in addition to that. You can choose to watch PBS Newshour online yourself here:

I thought PBS Newshour did a great segment on Russian atrocities in Ukraine yesterday:
 
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. . .

They put him into a special category to claim that. "Cable News Host".

The normal channels are not considered "cable news" so they are not counted against him.


To put Tucker in perspective, on a good night he has 4.5 million viewers.

That is 1% of the population.


This isn't Russia. A person can be the biggest "cable news host" and still be a pathetic joke.
Also, Tucker is by no definition is a "News" host, nor does he even claim to be such. He is the host of a political opinion / entertainment show "that no reasonable viewer would take seriously", as formally declared by Fox News, to avoid any liability for his incessant lies.
 
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Sadly some bad news:


Lets hope the Ukrainians can hold Bakhmut.

Biden from the US is ploughing billions of dollars in and obviously it’s not universally popular in the states with the Trumpanzee Seditionites.

Unsure if the funding and support continues in the next month.

Other than UK and Germany, the other big EU countries like France doing little and I think they are hedging their bets to ensure if Putin wins or even draws they will get the gas turned back on.

Switzerland obviously playing the neutral friend of the Nazis card.

Hungary is being a major thorn in NATO's side blocking things everywhere and giving info to Putin. Might not surprise me if we need a new NATO 2022 and beyond alliance.. (without Hungary)

Time to cross fingers and hope Ukraine gets enough support to hold out for a win!
 
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Putin's really letting himself go if he's appear on state television drunk


Link?

Putin doesn't drink, though he'll partake in the odd toast here and there. Now would be a bad time to start since he's trying to stick around as long as possible. I've heard he's been on a lot of drugs for pain and nausea. Pic I saw of him couple days ago it looked like he had make up on his hands, which makes me think there's something to those reports of his hands turning purple and black due to injection treatments.
 
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Sadly some bad news:


Lets hope the Ukrainians can hold Bakhmut.

Biden from the US is ploughing billions of dollars in and obviously it’s not universally popular in the states with the Trumpanzee Seditionites.

Unsure if the funding and support continues in the next month.

Other than UK and Germany, the other big EU countries like France doing little and I think they are hedging their bets to ensure if Putin wins or even draws they will get the gas turned back on.

Switzerland obviously playing the neutral friend of the Nazis card.

Hungary is being a major thorn in NATO's side blocking things everywhere and giving info to Putin. Might not surprise me if we need a new NATO 2022 and beyond alliance.. (without Hungary)

Time to cross fingers and hope Ukraine gets enough support to hold out for a win!

Holding or not holding Bakhmut is really meaningless. UA continuing to hold it tells me that they think they’re inflicting murderous losses on the Russian forces, if they were on the wrong end of the losses they’d fall back.

The longer they’re holding it the longer they’re attriting Russian forces, so in that way I hope they hold it too, but if they fall back that’s fine. They can find another position to make the Russians bleed for easily enough.
 

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Sadly some bad news:

Lets hope the Ukrainians can hold Bakhmut.

For the last couple of weeks, Russian war correspondents on Telegram have been describing the situation with restrained optimism. According to them, the Ukrainian side is suffering far greater losses in the "Bakhmut meat grinder", as the ratio of forces in artillery is 1:9 (words of Arestovych). Ukrainian channels, where the authors allow themselves to express their critical opinion, confirm the information about the difficult situation and the possible abandonment of Bakhmut, which would be a disaster for the entire front. At the very least, the depletion of the reserves being transferred here puts an end to Ukrainian plans for a counter-offensive in Crimea or other directions this winter
 

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also, collaborator was killed in DNR
DNR de facto independent for 8 years. The population was overwhelmingly against Ukraine (because of the constant shelling and the attitude of Ukrainians when they visited them). The deceased deputy was elected by the locals and dealt with social issues. To call her a collaborator is to justify terrorist shelling of civilians. Which, by the way, happens every day. The Ukrainian forces retaliate against the people of Donetsk for their failures on the front with shelling every day. Several dozen civilians (not collaboraters) die every week. At the same time, Ukraine mass media cynically call this "Russian shelling" and people laughing at comments. By the way, the English version of the article about the dead children of Donbass (Angel Alley) was recently removed from Wikipedia. Do you know why?
 

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For the last couple of weeks, Russian war correspondents on Telegram have been describing the situation with restrained optimism. According to them, the Ukrainian side is suffering far greater losses in the "Bakhmut meat grinder", as the ratio of forces in artillery is 1:9 (words of Arestovych). Ukrainian channels, where the authors allow themselves to express their critical opinion, confirm the information about the difficult situation and the possible abandonment of Bakhmut, which would be a disaster for the entire front. At the very least, the depletion of the reserves being transferred here puts an end to Ukrainian plans for a counter-offensive in Crimea or other directions this winter
Sure thing tankie. If it was really the case drones and himars would be smashing Russian artillery.
 
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DNR de facto independent for 8 years. The population was overwhelmingly against Ukraine (because of the constant shelling and the attitude of Ukrainians when they visited them). The deceased deputy was elected by the locals and dealt with social issues. To call her a collaborator is to justify terrorist shelling of civilians. Which, by the way, happens every day. The Ukrainian forces retaliate against the people of Donetsk for their failures on the front with shelling every day. Several dozen civilians (not collaboraters) die every week. At the same time, Ukraine mass media cynically call this "Russian shelling" and people laughing at comments. By the way, the English version of the article about the dead children of Donbass (Angel Alley) was recently removed from Wikipedia. Do you know why?
If you don’t like terrorist attacks against civilians you’re going to be so mad when you hear about this country called Russia.
 

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Sure thing tankie. If it was really the case drones and himars would be smashing Russian artillery.
Do not underestimate your enemy and overestimate your weapons. All reports say that artillery changes its position after a few minutes of fire. Neither himars nor drones will have time to hit the target in such a time. Their strength lies in their ability to destroy warehouses and logistics routes, not in counter-battery fighting
 

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Link?

Putin doesn't drink, though he'll partake in the odd toast here and there. Now would be a bad time to start sense he's trying to stick around as long as possible. I've heard he's been on a lot of drugs for pain and nausea. Pic I saw of him couple days ago it looked like he had make up on his hands, which makes me think there's something to those reports of his hands turning purple and black due to injection treatments.

appear a bit tipsy

/edit it could very well be the cocktail of drugs he's on the maintain his health, propaganda is rampant on both sides
 
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Do not underestimate your enemy and overestimate your weapons. All reports say that artillery changes its position after a few minutes of fire. Neither himars nor drones will have time to hit the target in such a time. Their strength lies in their ability to destroy warehouses and logistics routes, not in counter-battery fighting
Then why have your military commanders been using them to target civilian structures, parks, etc?
 
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Then why have your military commanders been using them to target civilian structures, parks, etc?
If the aim was to destroy cities with populations, it would be done differently. As far as I understand, the goal is to defeat the enemy armed forces. Sometimes they hide among houses, in schools, hospitals and parks (there is plenty of photo evidence). In such cases, firing at such targets is legitimate under international agreements.
Also erroneous hits are not excluded.
But the Ukrainian bombing of Donetsk and other "separatist" towns is certainly not mistake. Attacks in city center where there is no military - administrative buildings, markets, busy intersections. And all of these Ukrainian jokes about these strikes makes local and Russian population go crazy with anger