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If Ukraine can get this deal they should take it immediately. As we’ve seen over the last month anything can happen in war and this amounts to near total victory for Ukraine.Please please please let this happen…
Or maybe drag it out another week and get a better deal? I would think Ukraine wants some assurance and reparations?
If Ukraine can get this deal they should take it immediately. As we’ve seen over the last month anything can happen in war and this amounts to near total victory for Ukraine.
How do some of the more complicated systems work for the handoff? IE, the missile defense systems that are likely all in English. How does one get trained on that during an active conflict quick enough for it to be effective? The logistics of the arms smuggling is one of the few "neat" parts of this whole disaster.
Great 'boots on the ground' read. The direct interfacing of locals with soldiers has been a game-changer.
But this is the calculus that doesnt add up to me.
Putin cant win this war.
Lets play the scenario where Putin cant win this war, the Ukraine resolve is too strong and Russian conscripts too weak.
- Now Russia has depleted its resources in terms of hardware, finance and manpower.
- Ukraine even more determined to be its own country and integrate with Europe.
What moved Putin to go to war to begin with? Those variables have not been diminished during this "special operation", quite the opposite.
So what choice is left for Putin to defend against evil NATO?
Nuclear. Same as if we had boots in Ukraine.
Either way, peace keeping forces of NATO or not, its gonna come to the same conclusion.
Unless we're dragging it out in hopes that someone at home kills the king long live the king? Maybe thats the fine print?
"I'm surprised — I'm surprised. I thought he was negotiating when he sent his troops to the border. I thought he was negotiating. I thought it was a tough way to negotiate but a smart way to negotiate. I figured he was going to make a good deal like everybody else does with the United States and the other people they tend to deal with — you know, like every trade deal. We've never made a good trade deal until I came along. And then he went in — and I think he's changed. I think he's changed. It's a very sad thing for the world. He's very much changed."
Midterms and 2024 need to literally just be carpet-bombed nonstop clips of compromised Republicans speaking for themselves.Too fucking late orange boy and the rest of your Republican and right wing Putin cheerleaders...
Trump admits he was wrong about Putin — but just can't quit him (msn.com)
If he kills his own people that's their problem. Keep the sanctions on fully. Start seizing the assets of all the billionaire Russians to help pay for rebuilding UkraineSounds like Putin might be prepping his stance to explain the failure, and go on a crusade of 'ethnic cleansing' within Russia in a bid to stay in power.
Same as I told Jakalas...they're accepting foreign volunteers...sign up today.Denmark is ready to take part in peace keeping force in Ukraine.
Boots on the fucking ground. Make it happen.
My wife and I were talking about the post-conflict Ukraine assuming victory and just the mess that country will have to deal with.
Like right now we are fixated on just a binary win/loss getting Russia out. But the long term clean up Ukraine will face. Those 3 million people that left, how many have homes let alone a village to come back to. All of the dud mortars/missiles/mines/military garbage left. Bodies. Destroyed infrastructure. Just the entirety of chaos and destruction we can't really fathom. And then you have the civil concern of what to do with Russian apologists still in your borders.
Even victory is going to be bittersweet for that poor country to pick up the shambles it's left with.
Sounds like Putin might be prepping his stance to explain the failure, and go on a crusade of 'ethnic cleansing' within Russia in a bid to stay in power.
As deplorable as murdering his own citizens is, I much prefer this outcome to my prediction of a nuke on Kyiv.As usual no autocrat or dictator can fail, they can only be failed.
Humanitarian disaster that is ongoing, I wouldn't wish to continue 1 more minute, much less another week. But yes, Ukraine wants more solid assurance that Russia won't just regroup and then resume missile bombardment. I don't think reparations are realistically on the table, as much as I'd want it.Please please please let this happen…
Or maybe drag it out another week and get a better deal? I would think Ukraine wants some assurance and reparations?
This is OK by you?Same as I told Jakalas...they're accepting foreign volunteers...sign up today.