Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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itsmydamnation

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The Beruit explosion was 2.75kt of ammonium nitrate equalling about 1.5kt of TNT.

That blast looked like one storage going off but what it contained is hard to tell besides not being missile propellent. No single storage likely to contain more than a few hundred tons each.
your way under-estimating this , NASA fire tracker has the entire site ( which is a very large site) as on fire. look at the clip the blast wave is setting off other munitions that are several seconds away ( speed of sound)
 

K1052

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EU transfers 400M euros in Russian profits to Ukraine, most proceeds used to purchase defense articles from Ukrainian industry. Given the existing bottlenecks in western production this is a cost effective measure since Ukraine can produce much more cheaply and grow their domestic supply. A major injection of cash into their long range drone program that would allow expanded production also would have significant (quite unpleasant) implications for the Russians.


 
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The EU should also deport pro-Russian enclaves to Russia and move migrants in.. that would solve a lot of headaches it has with the Russian espionage of the west.
 
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kage69

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Yeah, that cost to benefit ratio is skewed in Ukraine's favor on that one, agreed. The Indian stuff is good too; made on European equipment and not too old. Other end of spectrum compared to a lot of the 152mm shells NK sent Russia.

And you know Putin didn't like Zelenskyy getting his own coveted Modi hug! ha
 

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And you know Putin didn't like Zelenskyy getting his own coveted Modi hug! ha
Well you know hugging Zelenskyy is relatively safe if Russia doesn't drop a missle on him; but hugging Putin can lead to odd hospilization or worse tripping and falling out of a window.
 
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Do they have any idea what precentage of total ammunition of Russia this represents? I mean is it like 0.0001 or 30%; Certainly more incompetence on Russia's part.

Difficult to asses the impact without knowing what the inventory was exactly. Size wise the place isn't gigantic but it is densely packed (clearly a con lol) and possibly over capacity. Probably over the stated 30k ton capacity. I suppose I would guess high single digits.
 
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Difficult to asses the impact without knowing what the inventory was exactly. Size wise the place isn't gigantic but it is densely packed (clearly a con lol) and possibly over capacity. Probably over the stated 30k ton capacity. I suppose I would guess high single digits.
Still pretty impressive; esp if it destroyed some missles those are the hardest for Russia to replace.
 

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Russia is so desperate for men that they take volunteers in their 60s and even 70s.

Well the thing is that meating grinding 60 and 70 year old is probably a positive for russia - what i mean by that is it frees up state resources for helping retiree and it preserves the 'professional' army (not that i think russia has much of a professional army in the sense of usa). It might be heartless but then again russia is a heartless land.
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For those who don't read the article they talk about a 62 year old man and how he lasted 3 months in the army before his death.
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Also they mention this tidbit which is telling of Russia view on these people:
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An official study by the primary military medical directorate of the Russian defence ministry says that 39% of soldiers’ deaths are a result of limb injuries and that mortality rates would be significantly improved if first aid and subsequent medical care were better.
 
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This article is rather entertaining:

Some of the papers talk about suicide in the russian army and the requirement they must spend x hours a day watching state media among other things.
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And this paragraph is a real doozer:
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Further instructions on keeping up morale come in an undated, typed document that explains that soldiers should get 5-10 minutes a day as well as an hour once a week of political instruction, “aimed at maintaining and raising the political, moral and psychological condition of the personnel”.
 

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This article is rather entertaining:

Some of the papers talk about suicide in the russian army and the requirement they must spend x hours a day watching state media among other things.
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And this paragraph is a real doozer:
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Further instructions on keeping up morale come in an undated, typed document that explains that soldiers should get 5-10 minutes a day as well as an hour once a week of political instruction, “aimed at maintaining and raising the political, moral and psychological condition of the personnel”.
Nothing raises morale like daily indoctrination meetings to raise morale...
 

kage69

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Morale, almost as shitty as the food and water supplies I hear. The number I heard was 110 Russian suicides have been caught on camera, since the invasion began.

Saw this too, yuck



"This author has watched thirty YouTube videos of Russian soldiers committing suicide. This has been possible thanks to the revolution that has taken place on the battlefield with the proliferation of cheap drones fitted with cameras. One slit his throat. It took him almost a minute to die. Twenty-two shot themselves. Seven killed themselves by detonating grenades: the first held the grenade at arms-length and looked away; the second held the grenade to his chest; the third detonated two grenades against his ears (the head vanished); the fourth also blew his head off; the fifth, a corpulent individual of Asiatic appearance, detonated the grenade under his body armour; the sixth was an individual hiding behind a vehicle wreck; and the seventh held the grenade in front of his face. How many Russian soldiers have committed similar acts unrecorded by Ukrainian drones can only be speculated."


"Aside from the suicide videos, the author has watched a Russian soldier shoot a (presumably) mortally wounded comrade then rob him. He has also seen a YouTube video in which two Russian soldiers remove the coat of a wounded soldier and leave him to crawl after them on his hands and knees in the snow. He has seen a Russian soldier in a trench set light to the corpse of a comrade, then curl up next to the smouldering body to keep warm. In another instance, a Russian soldier behaving oddly (possibly inebriated or drugged) lay next to the burning body of a comrade struck by an FPV drone; ammunition then exploded and he was killed as well (prompting the Ukrainian drone pilot to remark that he had just won a Darwin Award). He has seen a cat eating the fingers of a dead Russian, and another eating the face of a dead Russian in a trench. He has seen a bird of prey pecking the entrails of a corpse. He has seen a domestic pig feeding on a burnt Russian corpse – pig easting roast human (and somebody’s son). He has seen beatings, and he has seen Russian soldiers stripped naked and made to stand in a pit (‘they will copulate with each other’, a bullying officer joked). All this, it seems, is Russkiy Mir."