Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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zinfamous

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Wow. For context, Lipetsk is perhaps 300km east of Kursk… and roughly 400km from Ukraine… that is deep, deep in Russia. Moscow itself is only perhaps 550km from front lines

oh thanks for that.

what kind of fun things probably went boom at this Lipetsk, btw?

And how are they doing this? I don't keep up with weapons, range etc...I can't possibly care about the details...but are they getting close enough that they can bring in artillery within range or are there some really fun air-launched munitions that they just got access to, and UKR is having no trouble flying to their launch zones to do this?
 

zinfamous

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Or air launched cruise missile like storm shadows? Seems a bit far for ATACMS. Or could just be our good friend Boris out for a smoke again…

ah yeah...maybe the earlier predicted militias showing up to the party?

damn.
 

RnR_au

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And how are they doing this? I don't keep up with weapons, range etc...I can't possibly care about the details...but are they getting close enough that they can bring in artillery within range or are there some really fun air-launched munitions that they just got access to, and UK is having no trouble flying to their launch zones to do this?
I believe Russian eye witnesses said it was UAV's. Not sure if they were fixed wing, or drones.
 

Dave_5k

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I believe Russian eye witnesses said it was UAV's. Not sure if they were fixed wing, or drones.
Thanks, that makes most sense, Ukraine has been using those UAV for all deep strikes (both air bases and refineries) over past few months, with Western cruise missiles and artillery all still hard blocked by Biden, to use just within Ukraine or relaxed slightly to imminent military threats near front lines.
 

kage69

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Now would be a great time for an addled, drugged up Kadyrov to announce an independent Chechnya.


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zinfamous

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Now would be a great time for an addled, drugged up Kadyrov to announce an independent Chechnya.


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oh shit I kinda thought he died already...last I recall his bloated, pussed-up face was being carted into his compound by one of his fucking pedophile kids, back in like Fedruary?

Shit, he's still alive? lol.

spelling? fuck it I leave it.
 

misuspita

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He is alive, much more skinny, consumed by his deseases (I believe it's cancer?)

As for the Ukrainian thunder, there appear to be multiple brigades advancing, with paratroopers that started the whole thing. Everything is still in fog of war, because understandably the Ukrainian side keeps tight lips but some things get through.

One big unforseen problem for Ukr seems to be the huge number of pows, hindering their transportation back to Ukraine. It seems that without drugs and their own shooting anyone that tries to retreat, they're very much surrendering. Also, the zone was (supposedly) having a lot of Ru soldiers thst paid a lot of money to not be sent to the front and ended up in direct line of fire. Nice :)



Those 2 accounts seem to keep a steady stream of news, but many other are in overdrive

Edit - huge drone attack on multiple fronts in Russia. Let them feel their own strategy.

 
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[DHT]Osiris

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He is alive, much more skinny, consumed by his deseases (I believe it's cancer?)

As for the Ukrainian thunder, there appear to be multiple brigades advancing, with paratroopers that started the whole thing. Everything is still in fog of war, because understandably the Ukrainian side keeps tight lips but some things get through.

One big unforseen problem for Ukr seems to be the huge number of pows, hindering their transportation back to Ukraine. It seems that without drugs and their own shooting anyone that tries to retreat, they're very much surrendering. Also, the zone was (supposedly) having a lot of Ru soldiers thst paid a lot of money to not be sent to the front and ended up in direct line of fire. Nice :)



Those 2 accounts seem to keep a steady stream of news, but many other are in overdrive

Edit - huge drone attack on multiple fronts in Russia. Let them feel their own strategy.

Funny, supply trucks come in with goods, leave with POWs. Time to start bringing buses.
 
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Takin' it to 'em ....

"Ukraine Armed Forces' General Staff confirmed the attack on the Lipetsk-2 airfield just outside the regional capital hit a number of targets including warehouses storing hundreds of glide bombs causing huge blasts and fires at the base and that it was carried out by Ukraine Armed Forces, the Ukraine Security Service and special forces.

"Several sources of ignition were recorded, a major fire broke out and multiple detonations were observed," the General Staff wrote in a social media post in which it also said that Russian Airforce Su-34 strike fighters, Su-35 air defense fighters and MiG-31 interceptors were based at the airfield.

"The drone strike caused a powerful explosion, setting off a chain of detonations and a large-scale fire that spread across much of the airfield," the Kyiv Post quoted a source in the Ukraine Security Service as saying."

 
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They put their eyes out with those things!

"According to Russian military Telegram channel Troika (“Three”), the Ukrainians used tactics previously tested in Kharkiv on a smaller scale.

First, they brought down Russia’s screen of aircraft-type reconnaissance drones, effectively blinding commanders to what was happening. This may have been done by new interceptor FPVs linked to air-defence radar.

Secondly, under cover of the temporary observation blackout, short-range jammers were brought forward to the front line. These were programmed with data previously gleaned from electronic warfare reconnaissance.

“They discovered the main frequencies of our border radio communication networks, drone control frequencies, and prepared powerful jammers that crushed our communications,” according to another Russian blogger quoted by WarTranslated.

This was at least partly possible because the area was considered low priority and was not supplied with the latest equipment. In Ukraine, the war of drones versus jammers has been a constant arms race of upgrades as each move to evade jammed frequencies is countered by new jammers. It seems the drones in this sector were not working to the latest standards.

The result was that Russian drones, essential to identify targets and guide artillery, as well FPVs, were not able to function. According to WarTranslated’s source, even the feared Lancet loitering munitions were partly affected.

Drones are a major asset for stopping armored assaults. Recent reports suggest that they account for two-thirds or more of the tanks killed, with videos showing entire armored assaults knocked out one-by-one by successive FPV hits long before they reached enemy positions.

By concentrating enough jamming resources in the Kursk sector, Ukraine neutralized Russia’s drones, allowing their armor to cross open territory without being destroyed."

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"It may be significant that some videos of the action showe new Ukrainian dive-bomber drones. While quadcopter dive-bombing has been seen before, these look like aircraft-type drones with longer range and greater payload. It is a distinct echo of the original Blitzkrieg concept of dive-bombers in close support of ground troops."



 
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zinfamous

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Takin' it to 'em ....

"Ukraine Armed Forces' General Staff confirmed the attack on the Lipetsk-2 airfield just outside the regional capital hit a number of targets including warehouses storing hundreds of glide bombs causing huge blasts and fires at the base and that it was carried out by Ukraine Armed Forces, the Ukraine Security Service and special forces.

"Several sources of ignition were recorded, a major fire broke out and multiple detonations were observed," the General Staff wrote in a social media post in which it also said that Russian Airforce Su-34 strike fighters, Su-35 air defense fighters and MiG-31 interceptors were based at the airfield.

"The drone strike caused a powerful explosion, setting off a chain of detonations and a large-scale fire that spread across much of the airfield," the Kyiv Post quoted a source in the Ukraine Security Service as saying."


If they really did take out "hundreds of glide bombs" then that's extremely significant along the front as I understand that's the only thing that Russia has been able to successfully depend on in gaining...well, inches, as they make their plodding and self-immolating advance in UKR.

my guess is they really don't have the resources to hold any of that territory without the glide bombs forcing UKR into micro-retreats, which means once those stop falling, UKR probably sweep back through and cleanse out all those fucking Russians in short order. Well, one hopes.

But it seems to me that if "hundreds" of those things went off, there would be a rather massive, Tunguska-like crater in that area, no?
 
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K1052

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Takin' it to 'em ....

"Ukraine Armed Forces' General Staff confirmed the attack on the Lipetsk-2 airfield just outside the regional capital hit a number of targets including warehouses storing hundreds of glide bombs causing huge blasts and fires at the base and that it was carried out by Ukraine Armed Forces, the Ukraine Security Service and special forces.

"Several sources of ignition were recorded, a major fire broke out and multiple detonations were observed," the General Staff wrote in a social media post in which it also said that Russian Airforce Su-34 strike fighters, Su-35 air defense fighters and MiG-31 interceptors were based at the airfield.

"The drone strike caused a powerful explosion, setting off a chain of detonations and a large-scale fire that spread across much of the airfield," the Kyiv Post quoted a source in the Ukraine Security Service as saying."


The munitions storage at Lipetsk are reasonably distant from the rest of the base by Soviet standards. FIRMS indicates this is what what struck. (circled in black)

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However like basically every other Russian ammo dump the storage itself is light metal buildings, fancy tents, or simply a bunch of stuff dumped out in the open behind partial berms. This makes them extremely vulnerable to Ukrainian drone attack.


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you2

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For a country that claims superior army and tactics Russia truly demonstrate that the only real tactic they have is a lot of people. Having said all of this it is really sad at the number of brave Ukraine who are dying just because of one asshole.
 

Jaskalas

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This is a good watch for the broader strokes of why Ukraine is doing this operation.
Taking and holding Russian soil is intended for ending the war.
It gives Ukraine something of value in negotiations.
It adds pressure to flatly state "respect and return to international borders".

Ukraine must sweep as much lightly defended land as it can claim.
That is, after all, the only thing NATO training is good for. Lightning runs VS an unprepared opponent. Not the hardened positions Russia had a year to prepare for in Ukraine.

This is making the most out of the offensive potential Ukraine has. And I am all for it.
I would also love to see Ukraine take the Kursk NPP. If not to detonate and meltdown, then to cut Russia's electricity and to bargain with.
But that is probably too far away to claim.
 

fskimospy

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Taking and holding Russian soil is intended for ending the war.
It gives Ukraine something of value in negotiations.
It adds pressure to flatly state "respect and return to international borders".

Ukraine must sweep as much lightly defended land as it can claim.
That is, after all, the only thing NATO training is good for. Lightning runs VS an unprepared opponent. Not the hardened positions Russia had a year to prepare for in Ukraine.

This is making the most out of the offensive potential Ukraine has. And I am all for it.
I would also love to see Ukraine take the Kursk NPP. If not to detonate and meltdown, then to cut Russia's electricity and to bargain with.
But that is probably too far away to claim.
NATO training is the most effective on the planet as shown by the US military. The issue in Ukraine is it relies on combined arms operations and air superiority, which Ukraine lacks.