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Not sure where Pfarrer gets these maps - but this is pretty detailed. Click on pic for larger size.Russian sources indicate AFU has taken Robotyne.
I am going to let you in on a little secret.
Wars? They never end soon.
For example, a while back, a Russia started a war in Ukraine that was supposed to last 3 days. Yea. 3 day war. What is this now, day 600?
Once upon a time the USA started a war in Iraq then declared mission accomplished six weeks later. The US is still fighting in Iraq.
Or the Syrian civil war, that was supposed to be over in what, a month or two? And that started 2011? 2023, no end in sight, although most of the factions had settled down to internal murder at the moment. ISIS is making a resurgence though in Assad held areas.
The one thing I can absolutely guarantee you, without any shadow of a doubt, is this thread will be going this time next year.
At this point it’s clear that you’re just lying because you’ve been repeatedly informed that Ukraine has destroyed the best units of the Russian army with our old equipment we were going to scrap anyway.You forgot to mention the key difference between those wars and this one. We had a vested interest in those wars in the form of boots on the ground. In this one, we do not.
We also now know according to the biggest cheerleaders to keep this war going, CNN, that the majority of people in this country are now opposed to sending more aid. Looks like you guys are now in the minority now huh?
Once the cold/rain/mud season kicks in which is very soon, the current lines will freeze again and Russia will double down on building their defenses. They might even launch their own offensive.
Good luck on getting continued funding next years with article after article stating we’re out of munitions, public support for continued funding eroding , Zelensky wasting resources in Bahkmut, China getting closer and closer to invading Taiwan, and now the Africa problem with their puppet president getting overthrown, not to mention election season next year.
Sorry boys, but after spending $100 billion and having nothing to show for it, I have a hard time believing the establishment will fund another $100 billion next year only to see the Ukrainians squander it away on luxury cars and real estate in Spain.
In other words, when you have China knocking on Taiwans door, which is a MAJOR threat to our semiconductor security, this war just isn’t going to be a priority anymore. Too many other issues to deal with, and that is why IMO you’re now starting to read all of these articles from establishment media NOW stating the truth on the war, that Ukraine is losing. It’s all a ploy to soften the landing for you guys.
Who are you?You forgot to mention the key difference between those wars and this one. We had a vested interest in those wars in the form of boots on the ground. In this one, we do not.
We also now know according to the biggest cheerleaders to keep this war going, CNN, that the majority of people in this country are now opposed to sending more aid. Looks like you guys are now in the minority now huh?
Once the cold/rain/mud season kicks in which is very soon, the current lines will freeze again and Russia will double down on building their defenses. They might even launch their own offensive.
Good luck on getting continued funding next years with article after article stating we’re out of munitions, public support for continued funding eroding , Zelensky wasting resources in Bahkmut, China getting closer and closer to invading Taiwan, and now the Africa problem with their puppet president getting overthrown, not to mention election season next year.
Sorry boys, but after spending $100 billion and having nothing to show for it, I have a hard time believing the establishment will fund another $100 billion next year only to see the Ukrainians squander it away on luxury cars and real estate in Spain.
In other words, when you have China knocking on Taiwans door, which is a MAJOR threat to our semiconductor security, this war just isn’t going to be a priority anymore. Too many other issues to deal with, and that is why IMO you’re now starting to read all of these articles from establishment media NOW stating the truth on the war, that Ukraine is losing. It’s all a ploy to soften the landing for you guys.
Russians have no intention of being alive to see it.I wonder if it has occurred to the Russians what the SBU is going to do to them once they don't have to worry about US/Euro sensibilities in order to maintain arms supplies.
Not looking wonderful with The Washington Post releasing this article today titled "Ukraine running out of options to retake significant territory" as well. It looks like Young Grasshopper wrote it.Opinion from the WSJ. Does the Biden Administration really full appreciate what is necessary to beat Russia in Ukraine? A stalemate in Ukraine going into the 2024 election could be costly for the Democrats. The US public has a short attention span.
The latest fiasco is F-16 fighter jets. The Ukrainians are trying to fight a combined-arms campaign like a Western military would—but without the air power NATO forces rely on. Mr. Biden dithered for a year before approving training for Ukrainian pilots in May. The training is only now getting started.
. . . But Growing Risks in Ukraine
Mr. Biden doesn’t seem to appreciate what a stalemate or worse might cost the U.S. strategically, and himself politically. The Ukrainian spirit of resistance ranks with London in the Blitz, but it needs continuing Western support to keep up the fight. Mr. Putin’s bet is that he can wait out the West and eventually strike a “peace” accord on his terms.
If they did a Republican opinion peace, then it'd make perfect sense that it sounds like the Kremlin.Not looking wonderful with The Washington Post releasing this article today titled "Ukraine running out of options to retake significant territory" as well. It looks like Young Grasshopper wrote it.
You forgot to mention the key difference between those wars and this one. We had a vested interest in those wars in the form of boots on the ground. In this one, we do not.
We also now know according to the biggest cheerleaders to keep this war going, CNN, that the majority of people in this country are now opposed to sending more aid. Looks like you guys are now in the minority now huh?
Once the cold/rain/mud season kicks in which is very soon, the current lines will freeze again and Russia will double down on building their defenses. They might even launch their own offensive.
Good luck on getting continued funding next years with article after article stating we’re out of munitions, public support for continued funding eroding , Zelensky wasting resources in Bahkmut, China getting closer and closer to invading Taiwan, and now the Africa problem with their puppet president getting overthrown, not to mention election season next year.
Sorry boys, but after spending $100 billion and having nothing to show for it, I have a hard time believing the establishment will fund another $100 billion next year only to see the Ukrainians squander it away on luxury cars and real estate in Spain.
In other words, when you have China knocking on Taiwans door, which is a MAJOR threat to our semiconductor security, this war just isn’t going to be a priority anymore. Too many other issues to deal with, and that is why IMO you’re now starting to read all of these articles from establishment media NOW stating the truth on the war, that Ukraine is losing. It’s all a ploy to soften the landing for you guys.
We're going to throw Ukraine to the wolves the moment politicians find it advantageous for their polling numbers.This IS a war of attrition against Russia, and I do not like the odds of us betraying Europe.
You forgot to mention the key difference between those wars and this one. We had a vested interest in those wars in the form of boots on the ground. In this one, we do not.
We also now know according to the biggest cheerleaders to keep this war going, CNN, that the majority of people in this country are now opposed to sending more aid. Looks like you guys are now in the minority now huh?
Once the cold/rain/mud season kicks in which is very soon, the current lines will freeze again and Russia will double down on building their defenses. They might even launch their own offensive.
Good luck on getting continued funding next years with article after article stating we’re out of munitions, public support for continued funding eroding , Zelensky wasting resources in Bahkmut, China getting closer and closer to invading Taiwan, and now the Africa problem with their puppet president getting overthrown, not to mention election season next year.
Sorry boys, but after spending $100 billion and having nothing to show for it, I have a hard time believing the establishment will fund another $100 billion next year only to see the Ukrainians squander it away on luxury cars and real estate in Spain.
In other words, when you have China knocking on Taiwans door, which is a MAJOR threat to our semiconductor security, this war just isn’t going to be a priority anymore. Too many other issues to deal with, and that is why IMO you’re now starting to read all of these articles from establishment media NOW stating the truth on the war, that Ukraine is losing. It’s all a ploy to soften the landing for you guys.
Kill that thing! You have the power.their BS articles keep showing up on my MS Edge start page, along with a bunch of other right wing fly by night websites
We're going to throw Ukraine to the wolves the moment politicians find it advantageous for their polling numbers.
I hope I'm wrong.
That will all buff right out. Might need some duct tape.
