Rush Admitting to Drug Addiction on Radio Now!

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BOBDN

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In Rush Limpdick's own words:

?Too many whites are getting away with drug use. The answer is to ... find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river.?

IMO Limpdick's racist opinions on the public airwaves over the past twenty or so years has done more harm to our nation than drugs.

Now he has become what he hated.

Have a nice trip "up the river" you fvcking hypocrite.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: preslove
Here are some political Cartoons on the story. Rational people without a conservative agenda think the guy is a hypocritical blowhard.

:D

Love this one.

They depict Rush "The Junkie" Limbaugh, Bill "Let it Ride" Bennet, and Newt "The Player" Ginngrich :) Text

LoL - Newt's a classic ! Serving divorce papers to his dying wife while she is in the hospital, man what compassion.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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What is the difference between vicodin and oxycontin.. aside from the hydrocodone and oxycodone. For instance I know that (I've been told) the 7.5mg of the one is .9X the other. Are the not the same synth basically? I also am aware (I think) that the Aceto... in vicodin increases the effect of both.
I guess what I'm getting at is: An Rx of 1 or 2 5mg vicodin every 6 hrs and Ultram in between as needed vs time release oxycontin of 2x daily seems nearly an equal bunch of dope... Am I way off? Is one vs the other more addicting?

As an aside, I think the Ultram alone is equally effective as vicodin for two different pain causes... if that makes sense... at an effective dosage.. what say you?

OxyContin = oxycodone
Vicodin = acetaminophen/Tylenol + hydrocodone
Ultram = tramadol (acts on mu-opioid receptors plus other mechanisms but curiously is not considered addictive . . . although it is). Dope fiends like Rush would avoid tramadol b/c it would kill their buzz and precipitate withdrawal symptoms. That's why it is disingenuous to imply "he was just looking for good pain control". Under the care of a physician there are plenty of options for pain control. When people are suffering with chronic pain they usually go through multiple physicians b/c some docs don't know what they are doing while others don't believe the patient is in pain (drug seeking).

I rarely challenge patients that say "Vicodin works but Percocet doesn't" or some other iteration b/c it's common knowledge that no preparation works for everyone and all pain is not the same. The sole caveat to these concepts is Demerol. Patients in sickle cell crisis get Demerol but anybody else is essentially looking for a high. Of course, if you have nearly any surgery performed at my hospital you will likely receive 1-2 Percocet 5/325(oxycodone/acetaminophen) every 6hrs as needed for pain. Some doctors are dumb and many are lazy/busy so we take the easy route far to often.

OxyContin was NEVER intended as a treatment for non-chronic pain. It was developed as sustained release preparation to deal with chronic pain. People with real chronic pain rarely go looking for a high. They just want the pain to subside to a manageable level.

Drugs like Vicodin, Percocet, Ultram, and Darvon (propoxyphene/aspirin/caffeine) are designed for acute/episodic pain that is likely self-limiting (recovery from surgery, injury). They can largely be used interchangeably but are rarely used in combination. If the pain is that bad then usually you would move on to a long-acting/sustained-release prep like a Duragesic patch or OxyContin or better yet find out why the patient isn't getting better.

We have very good rules on how to effectively and safely control pain. Opiate-dependence secondary to treatment for pain is very uncommon, I believe less than 1%. Some of those people have a history of substance abuse (or family history of it). Some had poorly treated pain. And some just had a bad doctor.

Rush intentionally avoided going to the doctor b/c he was procuring his drugs on the street (well I'm sorry to be accurate . . . he sent his housekeeper to procure them on the street). Apparently, this wonderfully intelligent and introspective man with "talent on loan from God" decided self-medication for his pain made more sense than consulting a pain specialist.

I hope I answered your questions amongst the rambling if not send me a PM.
 

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If Bill Clinton were an addict, here's how Rush might spin it
By Bill McClellan
Post-Dispatch
10/12/2003


Somewhere in a parallel universe, where we are the same people but things have happened in slightly differently ways, Rush Limbaugh greets his loyal listeners this morning.

"Lots to talk about today. You all know already that Bill Clinton, our former president, has admitted an addiction to prescription drugs.

"It's interesting to see the way the liberal media are playing this. I'm looking at a copy of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Saturday, October 11th, edition - the day after the big announcement. Well, the story is on Page 2, and right next to his photograph, in large boldface print, is the following quote: 'I take full responsibility for this problem.'

"That's interesting, folks, because if you look at his actual statement - not what the liberal media say he said, but what he really said - you get a different take on it. First, he says he's got back problems. So he's blaming it on that. Then he says he had surgery, but the surgery wasn't successful. So he's blaming it on the doctors. Then he says the pain medication was addictive. So he's blaming it on the pharmaceutical companies. Folks, he blames it on everybody but himself! But as long as he puts in that obligatory line about taking responsibility, that's what the liberal media are going to grab: Clinton takes full responsibility!

"Here's another interesting thing in his statement. I love this one. He says a lot of athletes have admitted drug problems and have been treated like heroes. Huh? Can you name one athlete who admitted a drug problem and was then treated like a hero? How about Darryl Strawberry? Maybe liberals thought Strawberry was a hero, but I don't think most of us felt that way. And then Clinton says, 'I refuse to let anyone think I'm doing something heroic here.'

"You want to know what that's about? He's telling his friends in the liberal media how he wants this thing played. He wants to be called a hero for admitting his problem. That's why liberals confuse so many people. They mean the opposite of what they say.

"And I'm telling you folks, the liberal media are going to do it. He's going to be a hero. I can already see the spin on this: Clinton accepts responsibility! Doesn't blame others!

"I know you don't believe me - 'Rush, not even the liberal media can pull that one off!' - but just watch. I'm telling you. Just watch.

"Another thing. I heard him on the radio the other day. He was whimpering, 'I want to tell you about this because you're like family to me.' If there are any liberals out there listening, I'd like to ask you this: Weren't you people like family six weeks ago? How about six months ago? Two years ago? But he didn't feel the need to tell you then, did he? So why now? You think it could be because he's been caught? Because his high-priced attorney has told him he'd better act remorseful?

"Speaking of getting caught, have any of you read about those tapes and e-mails the cops have? Heh, heh, heh. You won't read them in the mainstream press, or hear about them on the Clinton News Network, but they're a hoot. He sounds like he's auditioning for a part in the next Cheech and Chong movie. He calls money "cabbage," and he refers to his favorite pills as "blue babes." It's always interesting to hear the way somebody talks when he thinks nobody is listening.

"I know what liberals are going to say: 'This is a time for compassion.' Let me be very clear about this, folks. I have compassion. But my compassion is for all the people who believed in the guy. He was their shining star. He could do no wrong. But you know something? I probably don't have to worry. Because his followers are going to still believe in him. That's the thing about liberals! You can't convince them! You can show them the facts. You can say, 'Look, here is what he really said, and here is what he really did,' but they don't want to know the truth. That's the big difference between them and us. Liberals are afraid of the truth."

 

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It's hard to imagine what types of issues will come out for him in rehab. I guess people get addicted chemically to these high powered painkillers. Others abuse drugs to change the way they feel, not necessarily alleviate pain.

I was in a very bad car wreck 20 years ago while in the usmc. They took me to a civilian hospital close by where I got emergency care. The pain was bad when they stitched my eye lids back on so I got morphene. 12 hours later, now in a military hospital, I asked the nurse from some additional morphene. She looked at me and with a straight face said "you ain't gettin no morphene, you'll be lucky if you get two tylenol instead of one." Nice!

My money is on Rush making a full recovery. I think he'll be strong as ever. If not, its not like the guy ever has to work again in his life, right? I think I'd be planning some fishing trips and special outtings with my family if I were him.

After all, Rush is right!

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Rush might be able to make some money off this. I just saw an advertisement from some law office looking for people who have become addicted to Oxycontin. Must be a class action lawsuit or something. Powerful stuff evidently.....:Q
 

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We're going to let you destroy your life. We're going to make it easy and then all of us who accept the responsibilities of life and don't destroy our lives on drugs, we'll pay for whatever messes you get into.

I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say people are going to do drugs anyway let's legalize it. It's a dumb idea. It's a rotten idea and those who are for it are purely 100 percent selfish.

If (Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders) wants to legalize drugs, send the people who want to do drugs to London and Zurich, and let's be rid of them.

There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I was in a very bad car wreck 20 years ago while in the usmc. They took me to a civilian hospital close by where I got emergency care. The pain was bad when they stitched my eye lids back on so I got morphene. 12 hours later, now in a military hospital, I asked the nurse from some additional morphene. She looked at me and with a straight face said "you ain't gettin no morphene, you'll be lucky if you get two tylenol instead of one." Nice!
I have no idea what ER treated you but several months ago, I had a similar situation. Unrestrained 17yo that needed his eyelid stitched up. Did he get pain medication? Sure, some Percocet to take the edge off considering he was pretty well scuffed up. I'm sure it hurt while I irrigated his wound. And I know the 16gauge needle I used for the local lidocaine/epi (anesthetic) hurt as well. But after he cleared an xray series he was sent home with instructions to take Tylenol (acetaminophen) for pain and to wear a damn seatbelt. I don't know if your experience was the norm back then but it is hard for me to imagine anyone giving a patient IV morphine to get stitches OR deal with minor post-injury pain.

My money is on Rush making a full recovery. I think he'll be strong as ever. If not, its not like the guy ever has to work again in his life, right? I think I'd be planning some fishing trips and special outtings with my family if I were him.
I would bet against Rush b/c he's an addict that still lacks insight into why he abuses. It's clear he still wants to place blame somewhere other than on his pursuit of a high or escape from his abysmal social life (or lack thereof). Several articles have been published over the past few days describing the stark contrast between Rush's on-air persona and his real personality. Rush's life was the radio . . . that was his existence. Short of FOXNews I doubt he will ever get another TV gig. And his radio comeback is far from a sure thing.

Once again for the apologeticists, you do not use the alleged doses Rush employed for the sake of pain control. He was getting high. He was looking for fulfillment . . . one handfull of Vicodin at a time.
 

DealMonkey

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Wow, bad karma's a bitch -- aint' it so, Rush? Bad couple of weeks here pal: Forced to resign from ESPN for racist comments, now forced to admit a prescription drug problem several years in the making? Not good, not good. Did you buy your pills on the black market Rush, or did you conspire with a physician to keep you well supplied? I guess what goes around, comes around. Hmmmm?