running soo god dam hot

[otispunkmeyer]

over here in england were having a bit of a heatwave. its been 28 degrees C today. normally hot weather is a good thing but my AMD xp2000 hates it. its been hittin close to 60 degrees C whilst playin on C n C Generals. when i rebooted it, it had then clocked itself down a few 100 Mhz.

i am on a tight budget, has any one got any ideas as to how i can cool my stuff. and before you say anything the the side of the case is already off, and my room is like a sauna.

 

[Vonkhan]

28 C is hot ... u kiddin me


try 42 C !!!

 

[OulOat]

MMmm, I thought Pentiums were the only ones with auto downclocking?

 

[mindwreck]

i wish it was 28 C here.....

 

[pelikan]

Get a big second hand box fan that's about the size of your case and aim it right at your open case.

 

[Cogman]

Move to the USA its cooler here And we use the Easy to understand Imperial scales. I mean 32*F is Freezing and 212* is boiling. just teasing. try moving your computer into a cooler room and getting better case vetelation. Also, I dont know of any UK Comp stores, but go for the ThermalRight SLK800 if you can find it.

 

[Corporate Thug]

since your on a budjet you may wanna look at the sk7

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
28 C is hot ... u kiddin me


try 42 C !!!

Maybe in america 28*c might be considered cold, but in the uk, its odd/rare to get temps above 15*c.
You would probably find the UK cold, and freeze your bollocks off. lol

Anyway, dont worry about the temps, my temps have gone up from 40*c load to 46*c load. 60*c is still within the limits, If you are really consered, then i suggest getting a couple of YS-Tech silent 80mm fans from overclockers uk(about £5 each) and place them in all of the fan brackets that you have available in your case.

 

[soja]

28c lol, here in southern CA that's winter temps. 15c ouuuu weee. Time to move to the UK, sounds like a ocers paradise

 

[Vonkhan]

I have my case open with a small table fan blowing directly into it

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: soja
28c lol, here in southern CA that's winter temps. 15c ouuuu weee. Time to move to the UK, sounds like a ocers paradise

Aside from the soccer hooligans.

Why don't you just get an A/C unit, dude?

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: soja
28c lol, here in southern CA that's winter temps. 15c ouuuu weee. Time to move to the UK, sounds like a ocers paradise

Aside from the soccer hooligans.

Why don't you just get an A/C unit, dude?

He just said he's on a tight budget. Why should he go spend tons of money on an AC for a rare heatwave when he can just buy a new fan and some AS3 or something of the sort? Better CPU cooling may even help more then lowering ambient temps by 10-15 degrees anyways.

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
I have my case open with a small table fan blowing directly into it

Last year the whole country (US) had a pretty massive heatwave in august or so? Like most of the country was 100º+ for weeks on end. My area (NYC area) was 105º w/90% humidity for like 3 weeks. My Athlon 1600+ (Stock crap HP case and cooling) wouldn't run without a room fan (small 9" Vornado) pushing into the back main intake. Talk about some serious CFM's! With that much force blowing in to the case, the exhaust was pushing like a hot blow dryer. It hasn't ben too hot yet this summer but my new P4 800fsb rig has been prepared with a Zalman 7000AICu with AS3, 3 thermaltake smart fan 2's, and shielded rounded cables. Worse comes to worst, I'll whip out the old trusty Vornado...

 

[dakels]

btw 105ºF is 41º Celcius to you non-Yanks.

 

[TXMatt]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
over here in england were having a bit of a heatwave. its been 28 degrees C today. normally hot weather is a good thing but my AMD xp2000 hates it. its been hittin close to 60 degrees C whilst playin on C n C Generals. when i rebooted it, it had then clocked itself down a few 100 Mhz.

i am on a tight budget, has any one got any ideas as to how i can cool my stuff. and before you say anything the the side of the case is already off, and my room is like a sauna.

A lot of people will say take the side off right away, but this often isn't the best solution. A CPU in a well designed case will actually run HOTTER with the side off, as the airflow pattern is "widened" which causes the air to flow over the CPU more slowly. With sides on, a case can act like a wind tunnel because it concentrates and directs the air flow in the smaller space, so you get a greater amount of air rushing over the CPU. My CPU runs 5 C hotter with the case sides off. My old case (a Lanboy) was another story though, it ran HOT with the sides on or off. Measure the CPU temps both ways before you take off the sides.

A few cheap solutions, if you don't want to replace your case (or even if you do) are:

*Get some screaming fast fans, Vantec tornados are decently priced. Utilize headphones when playing LAN games; your fans will distract your opponents but not you.. Exhaust fans generally lower CPU temps, intake fans generally lower case temps.

*Upgrade your CPU heat sink from an OEM one to a low-priced copper/aluminum hybrid (Cooler Master XDREAM Al/Cu with 80mm adjustable speed fan speed run around $10 USD now) or an all copper one (Glacial Tech all copper units run $13-$18 now).

*If you don't wish to replace you heat sink and it utilizes a 60mm fan, buy a 60 to 80 mm fan adapter (around $10), and mount a 80 MM fan of your choice.

*replace stock thermal paste with Arctic Silver (~$5)

*If your case has poor airflow, consider buying a pair of hand nibblers (around $10) and cut the largest size openings your case will allow and put in larger & additional intake/exhaust fans. This beats the screaming fast fans, or improves them if you don't mind the racket.

*Cut out all Stamped Grilles and leave the holes open or put in $2 wire grilles. Stamped grilles can restrict half or more of a case fan's potential airflow.

*Utilize rounded drive cables and wrap your power connections with spiral wrap or split loom. Airflow improvement again

I was able to drop my lanboy's case temps substantially by enlarging the 80mm exhaust to 120mm, and putting a second 80mm intake fan on the bottom, so it had 2x80mm intake and a 120mm exhaust. That improved case temps in a poorly designed case from 52/43 to 46/38 until I replaced it.

Come enjoy a Texas Summer and experience 40C+ outside with me; although I A/C the house to 26 ( I now get 39 cpu & 30 case temps).

Good Luck,
Matt

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: TXMatt

A lot of people will say take the side off right away, but this often isn't the best solution. A well designed case will actually run HOTTER with the side off, as the airflow pattern is "widened" which causes the air to flow over the CPU more slowly. With sides on, a case can act like a wind tunnel because it concentrates and directs the air flow in the smaller space, so you get a greater amount of air rushing over the CPU. My CPU runs 5 C hotter with the case sides off. My old case (a Lanboy) was another story though, it ran HOT with the sides on or off.

A few cheap solutions, if you don't want to replace your case (or even if you do) are:

*Get some screaming fast fans, Vantec tornados are decently priced. Utilize headphones when playing LAN games; your fans will distract your opponents but not you.. Exhaust fans generally lower CPU temps, intake fans generally lower case temps.

*If your CPU has a 60mm heat sink, buy a 60 to 80 mm fan adapter (around $10 USD) for it, and mount a 80 MM fan of your choice.

*If your case has poor airflow, consider buying a pair of hand nibblers (also around $10 USD) and cut the largest size openings your case will allow and put in larger & additional intake/exhaust fans. This beats the screaming fast fans, or improves them if you don't mind the racket.

*Cut out all Stamped Grilles and leave the holes open or put in $2 wire grilles. Stamped grilles can restrict half or more of a case fan's potential airflow.

*Utilize rounded drive cables and wrap your power connections with spiral wrap or split loom. Airflow improvement again

I was able to drop my lanboy's case temps substantially by enlarging the 80mm exhaust to 120mm, and putting a second 80mm intake fan on the bottom, so it had 2x80mm intake and a 120mm exhaust. That improved case temps to 46/38 until I replaced it.

Come enjoy a Texas Summer and experience 40C+ outside with me; although I A/C the house to 26 ( I now get 39 cpu & 30 case temps).

Good Luck,
Matt

Yeah, my case runs hotter with the side off, probably because it's got a 120mm fan in it.

Or get a Dremel if you don't have one already; I've heard that nibblers can take a long time to cut anything, and it wears out your hand. A Dremel does the job quite nicely; it's also useful around the house in many applications.
I'll also second slicing out the case's own excuses for fan grilles; they are flat, and often lack adequate openings to actually allow air through. They're flat too, which also can't help air flow through;
fan grilles will allow a lot more air through.
Of course, you can restrict airflow on your intakes just a bit with these if you don't want to coat your PC's guts with dust.
(And no, SVC didn't give me any money to put those links in.)

 

[TXMatt]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Or get a Dremel if you don't have one already; I've heard that nibblers can take a long time to cut anything, and it wears out your hand. A Dremel does the job quite nicely; it's also useful around the house in many applications.

He did specify cheap and dremels are not. I have a dremel, but do most of my case cutting with my nibblers anyway. They do give your hand quite a workout, however the bits that get nibbled out are big enough that I don't need to bother taking all of my components out. Cleanup of nibbled metal bits is MUCH easier than cleanup of dremel sanded filings. After nibbling, I cover the rough edges with edge molding, so I don't even need to file! In the end I can get holes cut more quickly with a nibbler.

If you are buying a new case, perhaps then a dremel is better because you don't have to take out components. However even then, it is best practice to tape off the area being cut (don't need to do this with nibbler) and you have to be very careul not to slip or you risk scratching your case's pretty paint job.

I also tried using a hole saw once, but again the removing components, taping the area, clamping a board behind the area, and cleaning up the bits ended up being more work than nibbling. The hole saw definitely produced the best hole of the 3 methods I have used; and a set of hole saws from Harbor Freight can be had for under $20 if I remember right.

Matt

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: dakels
He just said he's on a tight budget. Why should he go spend tons of money on an AC for a rare heatwave when he can just buy a new fan and some AS3 or something of the sort? Better CPU cooling may even help more then lowering ambient temps by 10-15 degrees anyways.

Well, a 5250-BTU window unit is $88 at Sears right now. Not exactly tons of money. His computer will thank him and he'll enjoy the benefits himself.

 

[TXMatt]

LOL,

This reminds me of a friend of mine's ghetto mod with a window unit. He used a baffle on the front of it to send all of the cool air through dryer tubing into the side of his computer. It worked until a very humid day; condensation formed on the top panel of his case and dripped onto his then $300 video card!!

Obviously you are talking about using the window unit to lower ambient temperature though, right??

 

[soja]

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: dakels
He just said he's on a tight budget. Why should he go spend tons of money on an AC for a rare heatwave when he can just buy a new fan and some AS3 or something of the sort? Better CPU cooling may even help more then lowering ambient temps by 10-15 degrees anyways.

Well, a 5250-BTU window unit is $88 at Sears right now. Not exactly tons of money. His computer will thank him and he'll enjoy the benefits himself.

bills bills bills. I need the electricity for my plants anyway

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: dakels
He just said he's on a tight budget. Why should he go spend tons of money on an AC for a rare heatwave when he can just buy a new fan and some AS3 or something of the sort? Better CPU cooling may even help more then lowering ambient temps by 10-15 degrees anyways.

Well, a 5250-BTU window unit is $88 at Sears right now. Not exactly tons of money. His computer will thank him and he'll enjoy the benefits himself.

A 5250-BTU is like a personal AC lol. That will cool my walk in closet. If he's got the room in a small 15x15 room then yea it will help, but a large room with large windows/skylights, it won't do much. Add to that about 1500-2000 BTU's for a typical computer with peripherals. Then 600 BTU for each person. That little AC isn't going to do much unless the cubic space of the room is very small. It also takes a while too cool ambient temps whereas a CPU fan cools instantly as needed. Even if he had a 15,000 BTU AC on blasting the ambient temps down to like 70 degrees, a good CPU cooling setup would still be more effective and be helpful all year round.
Doesn't matter as this arguement is moot. anyways, 5000 BTU AC for $89... pretty cheap. Usually they are like $200. Sounds like a good deal to me. Link plz. My girlfriend needs a small AC for her bedroom. It will benefit me too

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: soja
bills bills bills. I need the electricity for my plants anyway

Your hydro-hash, huh?

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: dakels
If he's got the room in a small 15x15 room then yea it will help, but a large room with large windows/skylights, it won't do much. That little AC isn't going to do much unless the cubic space of the room is very small. It also takes a while too cool ambient temps whereas a CPU fan cools instantly as needed.

Have you ever been to England--or Europe for that matter? All the rooms are tiny.

Oh, here's the Sears unit, linkified for your viewing pleasure

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: dakels
If he's got the room in a small 15x15 room then yea it will help, but a large room with large windows/skylights, it won't do much. That little AC isn't going to do much unless the cubic space of the room is very small. It also takes a while too cool ambient temps whereas a CPU fan cools instantly as needed.

Have you ever been to England--or Europe for that matter? All the rooms are tiny.

Oh, here's the Sears unit, linkified for your viewing pleasure

all the rooms are tiny in England? lol
thanks for the link. I'm going to pick it up for my girlfriend but it's weird, this summer has been downright cold. Last summer was like record hot average temps, this summer has been like record cold. Still, for $89, I'm on it. Her bedroom is only about 20x20 and no computer so it should work well.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: huesmann
Have you ever been to England--or Europe for that matter? All the rooms are tiny.

I hope that thats ment as a joke?
Alot of americans still think that the british/europeans still live in small, gothic house`s, and we all talk like the posh twats that live in buckingham palace.
I hate to burst everyones bubble, but i can assure you that we dont. Belive it or not, but desspite what you are shown on TV, europe as a whole is a very modernised place. There are still some old houses, but even they dont have loads small rooms.

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: dakels
this summer has been downright cold. Last summer was like record hot average temps, this summer has been like record cold.

Summer hasn't hit its stride yet! Wait til late July!