Running Ethernet at home

aburhinox

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I’ve read the sticky Proper Network Installation and I’m looking to install cable in my house now. I just moved into a two story house and the ISP has run the ethernet through the attic into one of the bedrooms. Ideally I would want the equipment to be in the basement, but I think I have to have a split network. I’m planning on putting the router and a small switch in a bedroom closet to serve the 2nd floor. I’ll locate the another switch in the basement to server the main level and basement.

I’m going to have an opportunity to run the cable between floors soon. We are planning on doing some work in the bathroom and I will have access the wall with the drain. I’m planning on running the cable next to the drain (next cavity over I hope) since that goes from basement straight up to the attic. I’ve been searching through other threads for ideas and came across a few references to “smurf tube”. Anyone have experience running that inside a wall? I’ll have access from the basement and from the second floor. Hopefully I can run the tube through the first floor while the second floor wall is open. Then I’ll have a conduit I can use whenever the cable gets outdated.

I’m planning on the split network because I figure it would be too difficult to run a lot of cable between the basement and attic. I can use a few cables to hook the two switches together to make it easier. I’m looking at the Ubiquiti Unifi switches that have a 1G SFP in them. I’m debating if I should run the cat6 Ethernet as the link between the two or just run a fiber. I can get some inexpensive fiber jumper cables from monoprice (consensus seems to be it’s fine for home network use), but companies use fiber trunk. The only place I can find pre-terminated fiber trunk is lanshack.com, which is like $300 for a 50ft run of 6 strand LC connections. For home use, if I follow the sticky thread guidance and find a fiber patch panel, is there anything wrong with running a few long regular patch cables between the floors instead of the fiber trunk? I’ll have to figure out some way to support the cable in the attic, but that’s the only downside I can think of.

One more question, as I’m running cable through the attic, especially fiber if I go that way, should it be elevated in the rafters or just run along the floor? Not like there is much work going on, but I do plan on replacing the attic insulation afterwards and don't want the cables to get messed up.
 

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If you still have easy access to the wall, AKA, drywall isn't up yet, get a PVC backbone pipe going. It's very popular with the HT community since it makes it easier to change and upgrade wires.
 
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If you still have easy access to the wall, AKA, drywall isn't up yet, get a PVC backbone pipe going. It's very popular with the HT community since it makes it easier to change and upgrade wires.

Can you elaborate on the 'PVC backbone' please? Google wasn't helpful and I'm in the same boat as the OP.
 
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Can you elaborate on the 'PVC backbone' please? Google wasn't helpful and I'm in the same boat as the OP.
Pipes in your walls. Run cable inside pipe. Want to replace cable? It's really easy to pull the wires out of the pipe and feed a new one through.
 
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sdifox

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smurf tube is a flexible pvc tube :p

as to op, as long as you get one cable from basement to second floor (and do first floor as well), it is not really a split network if you link everything up.

Personally I prefer to terminate network ports in the basement and have switch there. But nothing stops you from doing one run to second floor then put a switch on the second floor and distribute that way.

no reason to go to 1gbps fiber when good old cat. 6 can handle 1gbps fine. and if you have a need to upgrade to 10gbps later, you just run the fiber down the pipe.

If you want to future proof, run cat 6E as trunk. it can handle 10gbps up to 50m.
 
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aburhinox

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Good to hear I'm on the right track with the flexible pvc / smurf tube. I'm going with the flexiable kind because I'm not going to be able to access inside the wall on the 1st floor. I'm hoping that I'll be able to route that through with access above and below. Wish me luck!

I would ideally want to run everything to the basement instead of having a small switch in the bedroom closet. But I'm afraid that trying to pull 10+ cables through the two floors is going to be too difficult compared to two cables for the link between the switches. I'm planning on doing the "overbuild" idea and run two ports to each of the four bedrooms plus a wifi ap and the ISP connection that is already in the attic. Since I also have a network tv tuner I can hide up there, decided that mind as well have the equipment up there.

sdifox, yeah, it might make more sense to keep it with cat6 for the switch links. Fiber might be overkill, it might be nice to say I have a 10G link, but there is no real need to upgrade the switches just to be able to say it. The copper cable is going to be a little more resilient in the attic if we're doing anything else up there.
 

aigomorla

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PVC is really cheap as well.
Its not difficult to install.

Although you may hear some complaints from your contractor if he's required to drill extra holes though the fireblocks in the wall so you can slide the PVC though, but all worth the extra fee incase you need to replace / upgrade the wire.