Runners: When do you do your after-run stretching?

Amused

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Before you cool down, or after?

I've been doing my morning run, then I walk for about 5 minutes. I come in, do 200 situps (two sets of 100) then cool off for about 15 minutes, and then do my stretches. Should I be doing them before my situps while my legs are still warm? I've tried that, and they just get stiff as soon as I cool off.

BTW, I do stretch before running, but I know you need to stretch after, as well.
 

Mutilator

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Just don't stretch at all. There's nothing more refreshing then a charley horse gently ripping you from your sleep at 3AM. ;)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Mutilator
Just don't stretch at all. There's nothing more refreshing then a charley horse gently ripping you from your sleep at 3AM. ;)

If I didn't stretch, that would be the LEAST of my problems... :p
 

Mutilator

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Originally posted by: Amused
If I didn't stretch, that would be the LEAST of my problems... :p
Like tieing your testicles in a knot? lol ;)
I remember a while ago when a friend told me about a guy on his track team that had a brilliant idea to run in boxer shorts instead of tighty whities. He ended up having to go to the hospital after he sucessfully wrapped his testicles around each other 7 times.
Guess his thighs were playing tennis or something.
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You really should stretch before you cool down while the muscles are still reasonably supple. I know there are plenty of studies that have been published showing that stretching doesn't necessarily improve performance, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt anything either.
 

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Originally posted by: dolph
actually... all of that stretching is largely unnecessary.
<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-stretch16sep16.story" target=blank>here's why</A>

Care to copy and paste? I don't want to register at the LA Times spamulator :p
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
You really should stretch before you cool down while the muscles are still reasonably supple. I know there are plenty of studies that have been published showing that stretching doesn't necessarily improve performance, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt anything either.

Yeah, I'm not stretching to improve performance. I'm stretching to bring comfort, and reduce injury.

I'm 35. If I don't stretch, I stiffen up like a board.

So while still warm, huh? But then I have to do it all over again, because I stiffen up when I cool down. :confused:
 

Zebo

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The proper way to stretch is is after your muscles are "warm" which is after about 5 miniutes of areobic activity to that area. Well no-one ever does this because once you start working out you hate to interup it with a stretch. I like to stretch after cooling off from a run (30 minutes) after 15 minutes then begin my weight training. This way my muscles are "warm" , albeit fatiqued, and I have less of a chance to pull something while lifting heavy..
 

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from the la times:

September 16, 2002

Are They Pulling Our Leg?
Studies find stretching does little to prevent injury


By DIANNE PARTIE LANGE and SHARI ROAN, SPECIAL TO THE TIMES

Much of what we know or think we know about fitness isn't based on science. Take stretching.
Trainers and coaches tell us that taking a few minutes to stretch before and after exercise will prevent soreness and injury and improve our ability to play the game or lift the weight. But Australian researchers have reviewed studies considered scientifically reliable and found that this revered practice does little to protect us from harm.
Since 1949, only six studies on muscle soreness and two on injury risk have passed scientific muster, the researchers found. After analyzing the data on soreness, they concluded that the beneficial effects were so small that stretching couldn't be considered worthwhile. The studies were all performed on healthy young adults who typically stretched for five to 10 minutes. Analysis of the two injury studies, both done on army recruits, revealed an insignificant decrease in risk. "On average a person would have to stretch [before and after exercise] for 23 years to prevent one injury," says Rob D. Herbert, a coauthor of the study and lecturer at the University of Sydney's School of Physiotherapy in New South Wales, Australia.
The study, published in the Aug. 31 issue of the British Medical Journal, also attempted to determine whether stretching improves athletic performance. There aren't enough studies even to speculate on that aspect, the authors found.
Although there is a paucity of research on stretching, the analysis challenges what is considered one of the fundamental principles in athletic care, say Dr. Domhnall MacAuley, an Irish doctor, and Dr. Thomas M. Best, a University of Wisconsin orthopedic expert, in an editorial accompanying the study. They suggest the need for more research on modern athletic practices that have little or no scientific support. "Sport is rife with pseudoscience, and it is difficult to disentangle the evangelical enthusiasm of the locker room from research evidence," MacAuley and Best say.
Best points out that there still could be some benefit to stretching that research has yet to uncover. But accumulating knowledge about muscle tissues suggests that the processes affecting injury and muscle soreness are complex.
"There is controversy about this," says Lynn Millar, a professor of physical therapy at Andrews University in Berrien Springs, Mich., who studies flexibility. The lack of benefit associated with stretching "may have to do with when the person is stretching. And ... the type of exercise you're doing." Millar says, stretches before jogging--where the goal is to warm up muscles instead of relax them--may be useless. But, a regular program of 30-second stretches repeated three times for each muscle group could be helpful, especially in activities that require quick motions, such as tennis or racquetball.
"We don't have a lot of evidence, period," Millar says. "But the less rapid the activity, the less we need as far as stretching. If you do light stretching on muscles that feel tight and start into the activity slowly, that will probably be fine. But if I'm going to play racquetball, I'll probably want to jog in place and then do a little bit of extra stretching."
Herbert says further research should examine whether prolonged stretching by recreational athletes over months and years helps reduce injury. Based on the evidence so far, it may be reasonable for most people to give up stretching before a workout, Herbert says. "On balance I think most recreational athletes could choose not to stretch, but elite athletes might still stretch on the grounds that there remains a small possibility of a preventive effect."