Run 3 monitors off of GTX580?

TheNewGuy

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Hi Folks...

Sorry if it's been addressed, as I haven't seen it in the reviews/posts that I've read, but can three monitors be hooked up to a single 580 (like eyefinity), or would I have to get a second card to do so?

thanks...

Dave
 

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You would need a second card. Honestly to run modern games on 3 monitors you need 2 cards anyway, whether it be crossfire or sli.
It is possible to run older games with one fast card, but I dont see it worth buying 3 monitors to replay old games.
 

TheNewGuy

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Thanks for the insight on the one card/two card requirement.

Basically, I was doing it for iRacing, which is much more immersive with 3 monitors ;)

Dave
 

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To play iracing on 3 monitors (after reading up on it) you need something like a overclocked 5870 or gtx460's 1gb's in sli. With decent settings that is. :)
 

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I was reading the release notes in the PDF file for the new gtx 580 driver.
I think I read, tri-sli surround was not supported yet.
Must be some bugs.
 

blastingcap

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Hi Folks...

Sorry if it's been addressed, as I haven't seen it in the reviews/posts that I've read, but can three monitors be hooked up to a single 580 (like eyefinity), or would I have to get a second card to do so?

thanks...

Dave


Quick answer is no.

Longer answer:

Immersion ftw. I mostly played TF2 back when I got Eyefinity. I realized that playing TF2 at 120fps is a waste, given that my monitor can only refresh at 60Hz anyway, so why not put those "extra" fps to use and gain FOV? 3 screens was a big step up in immersion and, coupled with Surround heaphones, also made it significantly harder for spies to backstab me. :)

If it's application-specific, this is what I would do:

1. Find out what the frames per second (fps) would be with one monitor at the settings you play at with the card you expect to get.
2. Multiply by 0.45.

This gives you the approximate fps you'd get with three monitors of the same resolution, though some games will be higher or lower. For instance, if you'd get 100fps using your favorite settings and card, you can expect about 45fps if you triple the resolution. It's not a linear decline so that's why you don't need to multiply by 0.33.

I hate multi-GPU for various reasons (having to deal with driver updates and profiles, extra power/heat/noise, and I'd have to upgrade my motherboard and power supply unit, plus multi-GPU seems to have more problems with micro-stutter). But some people like multi-GPU so to each his/her own. If you go with NV Surround a nice perk is that you can use DVI only--no need to buy monitors with Displayport, or to buy a $25 Active DP -> DVI single-link adapter (or $100 if the monitors are each over 1920x1200 resolution). You need that for AMD Eyefinity.

HD6970 is supposed to be in the same ballpark as GTX580 and have 2GB of VRAM (better for extremely large resolutions like 5760x1200), so you may want to see how it performs when it comes out later this month, before deciding.

I'm slow to buy new games and care more about gameplay than graphics, so I tend to play older games with good gameplay. Nevertheless, I have been happy with a HD6850 at 5140x1050 (bezel-corrected) in L4D2 and TF2 at max detail settings + 4x MSAA at ~60-70fps (more like ~70-80fps if I overclock). I've seen the 5040x1050 framerates for things like Dirt 2, Oblivion, Fallout 3, etc. and can tell you that an overclocked 6850 can power them fine at that res.

For games that are too heavy to play on three screens, you can either a) lower the settings until you can play on 3 screens at an acceptable framerate, or b) play on the center screen only.

And Eyefinity/Surround is useful outside of games, too, especially for multitasking or watching a movie on one screen while websurfing on two others, etc.

Good luck!
 
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Lonyo

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Short answer: you need 2 cards.
Long answer: you need 2 cards, but you don't necessarily need 2 high end/same cards.

http://www.kegetys.net/SoftTH/

I haven't tried SoftTH in Windows Vista/7, or I don't think I have, since I haven't been doing 3 monitors since I upgraded, but it is possible to have 2 cards running 3 monitors and span a game across all 3 using the rendering power of a single GPU, even if the monitors and cards are mismatched and don't support more than 2 monitors per card.

Basically you could get a cheap $30 second card and throw that inside and possibly run across 3 monitors (I used to do it on a 7800GT + 7200GS and then an HD4850 and HD2400, both in Win XP though).

It's worth investigating if you do decide you don't want to use a multi-GPU NV solution but do want 3 monitors. It only supports DX9 I think though, so game support is limited, if it even works in Vista/7 nicely.
 

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he plays iracing? A gtx460 in sli or overclocked 5870 will easily do that with his three screens for 350$.
 

TheNewGuy

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he plays iracing? A gtx460 in sli or overclocked 5870 will easily do that with his three screens for 350$.

Yeah...it's not "much" per se, but my preference is nvidia (although I'm not adverse to AMD), and that's why I was wondering about the 580 as a single card.

Thanks folks...

Dave
 

Nintendesert

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That is another good benefit of going with 460 SLI. Hopefully the next gen card from Nvidia will support 3 monitors off one card. It's just useful outside of gaming too. I do like the 580 overall though.
 

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Wow that looks awesome.. Better than arcade. Display outpout options is a feature NVIDIA should improve. Seems to be their "output logic," probably embedded on the GPU, right?

- The card has two DVI ports and one one mini-HDMI port. According to NVIDIA the card also supports DisplayPort if board partners want to use it. Unlike AMD's latest GPUs, the output logic design is not as flexible. On AMD cards vendors are free to combine six TMDS links into any output configuration they want (dual-link DVI consuming two links), on NVIDIA, you are fixed to two DVI outputs and one HDMI/DP in addition to that. NVIDIA confirmed that you can use only two displays at the same time, so for a three monitor setup you would need two cards.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/2.html
 

fleshconsumed

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rofl, found this answer through google and all I can say is lame... I don't need to play games on 3 monitors, but I would like to run 2 monitors plus TV from a single card. ATI 5 series could do this for over a year now? nVidia still can't. Lame.
 

manimal

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You would need a second card. Honestly to run modern games on 3 monitors you need 2 cards anyway, whether it be crossfire or sli.
It is possible to run older games with one fast card, but I dont see it worth buying 3 monitors to replay old games.

wrong:


I get respectable framerates on my eyefinity setup with 1920x1200 monitors with a 5870. there are about 3 games I play that I end up using one screen for...
 

exar333

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wrong:


I get respectable framerates on my eyefinity setup with 1920x1200 monitors with a 5870. there are about 3 games I play that I end up using one screen for...

You may be right, but it really depends on your monitor resolution and the eye-candy that a person prefers. 3x22 LCD on a 5870 is pretty doable, but 3x24+ will not run anything in quality levels that I would want to play.

Can it do it? Sure.
Does everyone want that performance level? It depends.