Rumsfeld let Bin Laden escape

Kwatt

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And he will remain at large until there is another boogieman to replace him.
 

JSt0rm

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of course. What would we do without a boogieman? OBL is all about controlling the population.
 

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This is hardly new news, anyone who did their own critical thinking when it happened in Tora Bora realized the mistake then. And congress finally gets around to formalizing it only in the past few days?

The thinking was why should our troops die when we could get let our Northern alliance allies to do the bloody fighting and dying to get Bin Laden. And then Rumsfeld discovered the Northern alliance had no grievance against Bin Laden and declined to die for us. But Northern alliance mission accomplished, the Taliban were chased out of Afghanistan, the Northern alliance then sped back home to get back into the drug and corruption business at their same old stands. And there is where we can trace the fact of why we lost winning the peace in Afghanistan. You can't win the peace when the government you give the Afghan people is run by corruption experts.

As for figuring out how to blame Obama for it, I will leave that job to Rumsfeld, neocons, and Dick Cheney. If I had my druthers, I would prefer they be otherwise be occupied telling it to judges at the Hague as they are sent to answer for the international war crimes they committed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places.
 

Fear No Evil

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Put Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush in the Hague.. but try terrorists captured on foreign soil in NYC.. Makes sense to me! Maybe we could actuall try them under Sharia law as well?

Besides, 9/11 was just a hoax anyway.. Osama is innocent just framed by Condi and Cheney.
 

0marTheZealot

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Put Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush in the Hague.. but try terrorists captured on foreign soil in NYC.. Makes sense to me! Maybe we could actuall try them under Sharia law as well?

Besides, 9/11 was just a hoax anyway.. Osama is innocent just framed by Condi and Cheney.

You're a bigger joke than those you try to mock.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Hey I don't give a shit about these politicians, but the whole reason we went to war was because we were attacked on 9/11. If this is true then Rumsfeld and the others abandoned the cause of bring those responsible to account and went on a rampage in Iraq.

We were betrayed, and if there is a criminal penalty which can apply then these people ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

There is no excuse.
 

Red Dawn

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Everybody know you haven't had a witty reply since like Obama took office as well. Can you PLEASE just try? You aren't even entertaining like the trolls.. You are just boring and repetitive.
Lol, you think you're worth the effort?:rolleyes:
 

Zorkorist

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This is hardly new news, anyone who did their own critical thinking when it happened in Tora Bora realized the mistake then. And congress finally gets around to formalizing it only in the past few days?

The thinking was why should our troops die when we could get let our Northern alliance allies to do the bloody fighting and dying to get Bin Laden. And then Rumsfeld discovered the Northern alliance had no grievance against Bin Laden and declined to die for us. But Northern alliance mission accomplished, the Taliban were chased out of Afghanistan, the Northern alliance then sped back home to get back into the drug and corruption business at their same old stands. And there is where we can trace the fact of why we lost winning the peace in Afghanistan. You can't win the peace when the government you give the Afghan people is run by corruption experts.

As for figuring out how to blame Obama for it, I will leave that job to Rumsfeld, neocons, and Dick Cheney. If I had my druthers, I would prefer they be otherwise be occupied telling it to judges at the Hague as they are sent to answer for the international war crimes they committed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places.
Good post. I do remember the Northern Alliance, and that their leader was killed.

I remember Tora Bora too... and how we all had hopes that this was it for Obama.

Alas, it was not to be.
 

LumbergTech

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Put Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush in the Hague.. but try terrorists captured on foreign soil in NYC.. Makes sense to me! Maybe we could actuall try them under Sharia law as well?

Besides, 9/11 was just a hoax anyway.. Osama is innocent just framed by Condi and Cheney.

if you cant understand how ass backwards your mindset is...no one can help you

we SHOULD hold our people to a higher standard...what the fuck is wrong with you?
 

Zorkorist

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By "hold our people to a higher standard," do you mean that you wish we had caught Obama? Or, what.
 

Zorkorist

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Nobodyis denying it was a great screwup... read above for a good description of the state of things.

So, given that you want Obama above all else... are we free to go into Pakistan?
 

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Nobodyis denying it was a great screwup... read above for a good description of the state of things.

So, given that you want Obama above all else... are we free to go into Pakistan?
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Even though I know its a typo, do we want Ossama Bin Laden or do we want to get President Obama?

Cheer up, at least we know where to find Obama.
 

Farang

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The report was prepared by staff members of the Democratic majority at the request of John Kerry. It is not an objective assessment.
 

Jhhnn

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If we'd killied or captured Osama, then there wouldn't have been much point in sticking around in Afghanistan, other than fattening up military contractors... getting a lot of young service members shot up, maimed, killed...

Wait! wait! I think I just figured it out...

The Bush Admin never intended to "win" in Afghanistan, but to use it as a springboard for the invasion of Iraq, and as a cashcow for their buddies, an international porkbarrel project...
 

Zorkorist

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You're forgetting we captured Sadam Hussein.

BTW, AFAIK, Obama is about to say Afganistan is important too.
 

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The report was prepared by staff members of the Democratic majority at the request of John Kerry. It is not an objective assessment.
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Exactly not the point Farang, its not a matter of it being the partisan truth, its a matter of it being the actual truth or not.

As far as I am concerned, if anything it, the congressional report understates the real truth, but if you cast aspersions on the panels findings, the burden of rebuttal proof is now on you. Somehow screaming partisan does nothing to support your position. And you have offered nothing in the way of a rebuttal.